vermin empathy and swarms

[Merm7th]

Can a verminous hunter with vermin empathy change the initial attitude of a swarm?

[claudekennilol]

I don't see why not, but during that one minute you're trying they're probably still going to be eating you.

[dragonhunterq]

time constraints aside, I suspect it won't work anyway.Vermin/wild empathy are essentially diplomacy checks which as far as I know can only affect one creature at a time and swarms are immune to effects that have a specific number of targets (such as 'one').

That said that appears to just be the way I've seen diplomacy played, a quick skim and I can't see anything specifically limiting it to one creature, so I could be wrong.

[Merm7th]

claudekennilol wrote:

I don't see why not, but during that one minute you're trying they're probably still going to be eating you.

Verminous hunters get Swarm Stride which makes them "..safely pass through swarms of vermin and does not take swarm damage while within a vermin swarm's space. In addition, he is immune to a swarm's distraction ability."

[Merm7th]

If it is possible, I don't know what would or could be possible next with the swarm or any other vermin.