| Robert Reinhold |
I'm building a Lv 10 Summoner and my Eidolon seems OP, tell me what I did wrong or if this is right.
Level 10 Biped Eidolon w/ Half-Elf Summoner
30 Str: 16 + 2(Levels) + 4(level 10 bonus) + 8(Large Ev) = 30
14 Dex: 12 + 4(Level 10 Bonus) - 2(Large Ev) = 14
17 Con: 13 + 4(Large Ev.) = 17
07 Int: 7
10 Wis: 10
11 Cha: 11
25 AC = 10 + 8(Level 10 bonus) + 4(2xImproved Natural Armor) + 2(Large Ev) - 1(Large Size bonus) + 2(Dex Mod)
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Evolutions
1 Natural Armor 1
2 Bite 1
3 Horns 2
4 Limbs 2
5 Energy Attacks 2
6 Natural Armor 1
7 Slam 1
8 Large 4
9 Improved Damage 1 (Bite)
10 Improved Damage 1 (Gore)
Total 16 Ev points
Offense
Clawsx2 +17 (1d6 + 10 + 1d6)
Bite +17 (2d6 + 10 + 1d6)
Gore +17 (2d6 + 10 + 1d6)
Slam +17 (2d6 + 10 + 1d6)
This means I could theoretically do 8d6(Primary Attacks) + 50(Str) + 5d6 (Energy Attacks) on a full round action. This seems broken, what am I doing wrong?
| Lao Haeris |
That's an average of 89 damage before damage reduction (which destroys multi attackers) IF ALL attacks hit.
Seems... ok to meh for 10 lvl. Depends on how much the rest of the group optimizes. Any other optimized dedicated martials will surpass you without effort.
You could improve the build though. It seems all over the place now with so many different natural attack types.
| Apocryphile |
You have a bite and gore attack both off the one head.
I'm not sure if you can do that, two attacks off one 'limb', I mean.
I know with PCs people have ruled against using a bite and a barbazu beard, or the dwarves spiked helmet and beard and so on..
Instead of the Slam on the second set of arms you could use 2 more claws, and turn the Improved damage (Gore) into Imp Damage (Claws) which would bring all 4 attacks up to 1d8.
What did you do with your Eidolon's feats?
Also, buy your Eidolon an Amulet of Mighty Fists.
| DaemonArcher |
If I'm reading into this right you've put two feats into extra evolution points correct? Meaning you're already investing in turning it better so it doesn't appear too out of the ordinary.
As for the bite and gore, they're both treated as Primary attacks, whether or not that has anything to do with it per rules is another matter but I do suppose Apocryphile has a point. The added claws would help even things out. As for your high amount of attacks; the damage should significantly decrease with appropriate dr at higher levels. That is frankly the dm's job to deal with but may be more of a hindrance than you may expect. That's what aligned attacks are for. Man, makes me wanna play a summoner now