
Generic Villain |
Here is the text of the scarred rager's scarification ability:
Scarification (Ex): At 3rd level, a scarred rager can ignore 1 point of bleed damage per round. This amount increases by 1 every three levels beyond 3rd. At 15th level, a scarred rager can ignore 1 bleed effect each round. This ability replaces trap sense.
My question concerns the italicized portion. How does everyone else read this? What is a bleed effect exactly? For example, at 15th level the rager can shrug off 5 points of bleed damage a round. Say he gets sneak attacked by an 11th-level rogue with the bleeding attack talent, which deals 6 points of bleed damage. Does he take 1 point of bleed damage, or shrug it off entirely because it's the first bleed effect he's targeted with that round?
Or does bleed effect refer to an effect that deals non-hit point bleed damage? For example, a few creatures like the scarlet walker (Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition) deal ability damage which is explicitly called out as "a bleed effect."

Blakmane |

From the OGC:
"Bleed
A creature that is taking bleed damage takes the listed amount of damage at the beginning of its turn. Bleeding can be stopped by a DC 15 Heal check or through the application of any spell that cures hit point damage (even if the bleed is ability damage). Some bleed effects cause ability damage or even ability drain. Bleed effects do not stack with each other unless they deal different kinds of damage. When two or more bleed effects deal the same kind of damage, take the worse effect. In this case, ability drain is worse than ability damage."
Bleed effects = bleed damage of any sort, HP or attribute. It requires some super convoluted reading of that passage to reach any other conclusion.
Thus, your barbarian shrugs it off entirely because it's the first bleed effect for that round.

Generic Villain |
Bleed effects = bleed damage of any sort, HP or attribute. It requires some super convoluted reading of that passage to reach any other conclusion.
Yeah that was more or less my interpretation. Easiest answer = best answer. Still, they could've made it a bit more clear. Something like "At 15th level, a scarred rager can ignore all damage from 1 bleed effect each round, including hit point and ability damage."

Blakmane |

Blakmane wrote:Yeah that was more or less my interpretation. Easiest answer = best answer. Still, they could've made it a bit more clear. Something like "At 15th level, a scarred rager can ignore all damage from 1 bleed effect each round, including hit point and ability damage."
Bleed effects = bleed damage of any sort, HP or attribute. It requires some super convoluted reading of that passage to reach any other conclusion.
Paizo isn't known for being particularly clear with their rules text, unfortunately.
Good luck with your character!