When a paldin smites, he/she gets a deflection bonus to AC equal to CHR modifier.
Is there any reason this hasn't been errated into a sacred bonus? To me it seems to make more 'sense'. I assume either
1) nobody cared
2) game balance
is deflection considered 'better' than sacred? Right now, I lose part of my AC bonus because it doesn't stack with a ring.
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If smite bonus would stack with Rings of Protection, smiting Paladins would be even more scary than they already are.
Also you don't lose AC, you gain the better of the two deflection bonuses.
Blake Duffey wrote: When a paldin smites, he/she gets a deflection bonus to AC equal to CHR modifier.
Is there any reason this hasn't been errated into a sacred bonus? To me it seems to make more 'sense'. I assume either
1) nobody cared
2) game balance
is deflection considered 'better' than sacred? Right now, I lose part of my AC bonus because it doesn't stack with a ring.
That's the intentional design choice. That's why spells that give attribute bonuses give mainly enhancement bonuses, to limit how much stacking you can do with magic items.
Avianfoo wrote: Also you don't lose AC, you gain the better of the two deflection bonuses. I used a poor choice of words - my paladin has a +2 ring but +6 CHR mod. I get the full +6, but I 'lose' the +2 from the ring (because it doesn't stack)
LazarX wrote: That's the intentional design choice. That's why spells that give attribute bonuses give mainly enhancement bonuses, to limit how much stacking you can do with magic items. Thanks - I found it interesting that the HV prestige class 'shield' power is a sacred bonus (which would stack with any deflection bonus)
Blake Duffey wrote: Avianfoo wrote: Also you don't lose AC, you gain the better of the two deflection bonuses. I used a poor choice of words - my paladin has a +2 ring but +6 CHR mod. I get the full +6, but I 'lose' the +2 from the ring (because it doesn't stack) The other way of looking at it is that you gained 4 pts of AC.
Blake Duffey wrote: LazarX wrote: That's the intentional design choice. That's why spells that give attribute bonuses give mainly enhancement bonuses, to limit how much stacking you can do with magic items. Thanks - I found it interesting that the HV prestige class 'shield' power is a sacred bonus (which would stack with any deflection bonus) Yes but going that route, like any proper Prc, involves it's own set of tradeoffs.
LazarX wrote: Yes but going that route, like any proper Prc, involves it's own set of tradeoffs. Agreed - I've decided it isn't worth the trade off (although an extra +5 to AC would be nice, even if it only lasts until you get whacked)
Also remember that the +6 bonus from Smite only counts against the targeted enemy. You still get your +2 against everyone else.
TriOmegaZero wrote: Also remember that the +6 bonus from Smite only counts against the targeted enemy. You still get your +2 against everyone else. Certainly correct
I believe it's a deflection bonus because that makes it fit with the bonuses from Unholy Aura, Cloak of Chaos, and the like.
Ross Byers wrote: I believe it's a deflection bonus because that makes it fit with the bonuses from Unholy Aura, Cloak of Chaos, and the like. Is the 'sacred' bonus in the core book? Or was this introduced in the APG? I was wondering if they would errata it at some point (that's what caused the question)
:)
Thanks to all for wise responses.
what about an incorporeal antipaladin? it naturally has a natural deflection bonus to CA equal to its charisma modifier, when it smites good it gains no bonus to CA them?
Just goes to show that the "standard" magic items shouldn't be equally standard purchases for everyone.
Ascalaphus wrote: Just goes to show that the "standard" magic items shouldn't be equally standard purchases for everyone. Completely agree, branch out and see what other rings are out there, the paladin in our group recently found a ring of force fangs and is loving it, lol.
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