Low-Light or Darkvision?


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Assume you can pick one, which do you like better, and why?

Scarab Sages

Darkvision. It's no question. Darkvision lets you see in no light. Lowlight only extends the range of dim light.


As a GM, I like the challenge of describing the items found in the dark without texture/color/etc., so I prefer darkvision for that reason alone.


Imbicatus wrote:
Darkvision. It's no question. Darkvision lets you see in no light. Lowlight only extends the range of dim light.

Well I could see an argument like this:

- Darkvision is only 60 ft, after that you're essentially as blind as anyone else.
- A torch gives 20/40 light and with LLV that's 40/80, so you actually see further than with DV. And lets face it, somebody is always going to use one, because an all-DV-party is pretty rare.
- LLV lets you see in moonlight as if it was day, pretty useful on watches

I'm not saying Darkvision is bad, mind you, but I'm not sure it's unbeatably better than LLV.

Scarab Sages

Quatar wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Darkvision. It's no question. Darkvision lets you see in no light. Lowlight only extends the range of dim light.

Well I could see an argument like this:

- Darkvision is only 60 ft, after that you're essentially as blind as anyone else.
- A torch gives 20/40 light and with LLV that's 40/80, so you actually see further than with DV. And lets face it, somebody is always going to use one, because an all-DV-party is pretty rare.
- LLV lets you see in moonlight as if it was day, pretty useful on watches

I'm not saying Darkvision is bad, mind you, but I'm not sure it's unbeatably better than LLV.

Darkvision enables sneak attacks, darkvision can see though magicical darkness, and darkvision enables stealth.

Low Light still needs a light source to avoid concealment, Low Light doesn't do anything against magical darkness, and carrying a light source neuters stealth.

The extra range granted by lowlight is generally not helpful.


Yes, I guess I see where you're coming from.

Sovereign Court

For a stealth character - darkvision - no question. It's hard to be stealthy when carrying a torch. For anyone else it's a toss-up.


Darkvision all the way. Low-Light vision doesn't let you track a man through a forest on a moon-less, cloudy night.

Especially if you're a Tiefling. I'll totally drop 2 Feats on having See In Darkness.

Scarab Sages

Darkvision is almost mandatory if you ever go to the

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Well it's going to be for a Barbarian or Bloodrager (not sure yet), so not exactly a stealth or sneak attack character.

Was considering if switching out the Half-orc's Darkvision for the LLV from Forest Walker is a good idea.


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Quatar wrote:

Well it's going to be for a Barbarian or Bloodrager (not sure yet), so not exactly a stealth or sneak attack character.

Was considering if switching out the Half-orc's Darkvision for the LLV from Forest Walker is a good idea.

Go for both Darkvision and Low Light Vision. Half-Orc Racial darkvision with Blood Dragons Trait select Low Light Vision. Best of both worlds.

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