Theologian and domain power caster level.


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

Theologian adds 2 to the effective cleric level for domain powers. A few of the domains use caster level. Would the increase to cleric level increase the caster level for these powers?

Specifically, Dispelling Touch (Sp) of the magic domain and Wind Blast (Su) of the Wind subdomain (air). Probably others.

Sczarni

Theologian wrote:
Focused Domain: A theologian chooses only one domain from her deity's portfolio rather than the normal two domains. All level-dependent effects of the granted powers from the theologian's domain function as if she were two cleric levels higher than her actual cleric level. This does not allow her to gain domain-granted powers earlier than normal.

Scarab Sages

I read that. Are you confirming that it increases caster level, as caster level is derived from the cleric level?


There are currently no rules in existence for determining caster level for supernatural abilities.

FAQ question, perhaps?


IMO, it ncreases it all level dependant effects, CL is dependant on Cleric level sooo it is increased as well. but I am not 100% sure. Just saying what I'd rule


Caster level for spells and spell-like abilities is dependent on class level. But there are no rules for supernatural abilities.


pretty sure it'd work the same but, sure FAQ

Sczarni

Murdock Mudeater wrote:
I read that. Are you confirming that it increases caster level, as caster level is derived from the cleric level?

You didn't provide a link or quote, so I was doing both.

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
I read that. Are you confirming that it increases caster level, as caster level is derived from the cleric level?
You didn't provide a link or quote, so I was doing both.

I can do quotes, if you want.

First, Theologin Focused Domain:

Spoiler:

Focused Domain

A theologian chooses only one domain from her deity’s portfolio rather than the normal two domains. All level-dependent effects of the granted powers from the theologian’s domain function as if she were two cleric levels higher than her actual cleric level. This does not allow her to gain domain-granted powers earlier than normal. A theologian can prepare domain spells using her non-domain slots. She cannot use her spontaneous casting ability on domain spells, even if they are prepared in non-domain slots.

In all other respects, this works like and replaces the standard cleric domain ability.

Then we have the Wind subdomain of the Air Domain, which has the following ability:

Spoiler:

Wind Blast (Su): As a standard action, you can unleash a blast of air in a 30-foot line. Make a combat maneuver check against each creature in the line, using your caster level as your base attack bonus and your Wisdom modifier in place of your Strength modifier. Treat the results as a bull rush attempt. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Next one is the Dispelling touch of the Magic Domain. This one is in two parts because it doesn't directly use a caster level, but instead uses a "targeted dispel magic" use, which, as per the dispel magic spell, uses a caster level to determine effects.

Spoiler:

Dispelling Touch (Sp): At 8th level, you can use a targeted dispel magic effect as a melee touch attack. You can use this ability once per day at 8th level and one additional time per day for every four cleric levels beyond 8th.

Spoiler:

Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell's caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell.

For example, a 7th-level caster casts dispel magic, targeting a creature affected by stoneskin (caster level 12th) and fly (caster level 6th). The caster level check results in a 19. This check is not high enough to end the stoneskin (which would have required a 23 or higher), but it is high enough to end the fly (which only required a 17). Had the dispel check resulted in a 23 or higher, the stoneskin would have been dispelled, leaving the fly intact. Had the dispel check been a 16 or less, no spells would have been affected.

You can also use a targeted dispel to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area (such as a wall of fire). You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way. If your caster level check is equal to or higher than the DC of that spell, it ends. No other spells or effects on the target are dispelled if your check is not high enough to end the targeted effect.

If you target an object or creature that is the effect of an ongoing spell (such as a monster summoned by summon monster), you make a dispel check to end the spell that conjured the object or creature.

If the object that you target is a magic item, you make a dispel check against the item's caster level (DC = 11 + the item's caster level). If you succeed, all the item's magical properties are suppressed for 1d4 rounds, after which the item recovers its magical properties. A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect. An interdimensional opening (such as a bag of holding) is temporarily closed. A magic item's physical properties are unchanged: A suppressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact). Artifacts and deities are unaffected by mortal magic such as this.

You automatically succeed on your dispel check against any spell that you cast yourself.

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