"ally decisions" and dominated allies....

[Murdock Mudeater]

Asking to be sure:

If my ally is dominated, or the player is otherwise not in control of their character, do abilities/spells which given they choices get decided by the player or by the NPC/PC currently in control of the character?

In example, Barbarian got dominated by enemy enchanter. Cleric of the Community domain is trying to use the Unity (Su) power to shrug the effect.

"Unity (Su): At 8th level, whenever a spell or effect targets you and one or more allies within 30 feet, you can use this ability to allow your allies to use your saving throw against the effect in place of their own. Each ally must decide individually before the rolls are made. Using this ability is an immediate action. You can use this ability once per day at 8th level, and one additional time per day for every four cleric levels beyond 8th."

Note how the ally must decide to shrug the effect with an additional save. So if the barbarian is dominated, can it decide?

If dominate is a bad example, not sure. I'm just trying to figure out if abilities like the above unity (Su) are based on the decisions of the players or the current controller of the character.

[Bandw2]

is he dominated before he uses unity?

[Murdock Mudeater]

Bandw2 wrote:

is he dominated before he uses unity?

Barbarian is dominated prior to cleric using unity.

[Murdock Mudeater]

Oh, I see your point, yeah misread the unity.

Yeah, so a second spell targets the dominated barbarian. something bad for the barbarian and allows a save. Cleric uses unity. Can barbarian's player choose to save, or is the choice up the the enchanter who has dominated the barbarian?

[Bandw2]

is the fact that he's dominated make him not an ally? if his orders oppose the party I would say no, otherwise yes. basically it simply matters if he is an ally or not, then whomever is controlling him decides. for the most part i let player's play their domination. seems funner that way, but they have to play it fully.

[Murdock Mudeater]

Bandw2 wrote:

is the fact that he's dominated make him not an ally? if his orders oppose the party I would say no, otherwise yes. basically it simply matters if he is an ally or not, then whomever is controlling him decides. for the most part i let player's play their domination. seems funner that way, but they have to play it fully.

It's an example. There are quite a few ways to lose control of your character. There are also quite a few which ask a character to "decide" effects of spells and abilities.

I'm not asking just about domination and unity. I do agree that in the above example, them being an ally does matter.