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Like title says... Main Wiki currently is horribly slow because it's pushing ad-scam etc. Even with ad/script blockers, the site does sketchy re-load stuff 3x before you see usable page. This kind of site isn't actually going to develop good community contributions because who would volunteer for such crap? These sites generally only exist by scraping other sources (and it currently doesn't even have basic consistency between topics like Cooking/Recipes).
Obviously the company that runs that is not changing their modus operandi, I don't even know if Owlcat cut some deal with them for exclusive official Wiki status. But that doesn't mean anybody else can't start own Wiki, game mechanics are not copy-rightable and the over-all setting lore/IP is owned by Paizo. If there is exclusivity over Owlcat-modified Lore, that can be stepped around like d20pfsrd did with indirect/generic descriptions (albeit most lore is vanilla Paizo lore, available via Paizo's own licence).
I don't know why Paizo can't offer free hosting for this, as they are now doing with Karui's Nethys Archives. (BTW, why is Legacy PRD *SO* much slower if Paizo is hosting it?) This can offer the best experience focusing on info community deems important, not burdened by ad-scams. Working with pathfinderwiki.com seems best route for general setting-lore integration, that strengthen ties with Paizo community. If Paizo Legacy PRD & Nethys design work can be recycled (swapping in Owlcat specific mechanics and removing PnP-only rules), that seems very efficient way to get superior resource quickly available. The commercial site will probably just scrape this resource (and probably have licence for Kingmaker IP too) but they can be ignored like their many siblings are (Wikia et al).
Thoughts?
I was going to post this on Owlcat as well, but screwed up my name, and would rather wait until I can change name again so it matches here.

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Which wiki are you talking about? The Gamepedia one or the Wikia one? I've used them both pretty thoroughly but haven't run into any ad issues on desktop (Adblock plus installed here tho) and on mobile (straight up stock chrome). Both sites kind of suck though as far as content.
I'm referring to Gamepedia (AFAIK Wikia only covers tabletop version?), and yes, my adblockers stop their actual ads, but the site still pulls bizarre re-load shenanigans which are way more complex than what content justifies. And as you note, the content is not especially good, although AFAIK there isn't much better elsewhere in centralized Wiki format... But that just re-enforces rationale for better Wiki alternative. The complexity of game rules really demands PRD-level coverage, alongside more guide-like approach.
Quandary wrote:Paizo can't offer free hosting for this, as they are now doing with Karui's Nethys Archives.For the record, from what information has been released, that's not happening. Nethys still pays his own hosting bills.
OK, well that explains the performance issue... I don't know why I had gotten impression Paizo was doing hosting now. Seems like something they should do, but who am I to say?

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What type of information are you trying to look up? If it is in world knowledge, https://pathfinderwiki.com/ is including the game as a tier 4 (weakest source of information) source.
The wikia version of the pathfinder wiki is no longer supported and over 11,000 articles out of date. I beleive pathfinder kingmaker has both a wikia and a Gamepedia wiki ( http://pathfinderkingmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Pathfinder_Kingmaker_Wiki )

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When the game was still in Beta, I reached out to the people making the Gamepedia wiki to try to get them to collaborate with the existing PathfinderWiki (self-hosted, not the wikia one, for the reasons Cpt_kirstov mentioned above). The response I got was that it was being set up and administered by people on Gamepedia's payroll, and thus couldn't be associated with "competing" platforms.
The wikia version just sort of spawned on its own, without much discussion that I saw on the Owlcat forums.
Those of us active on PathfinderWiki.com would love to host content useful to players of the video game, but we need editors willing to spearhead those efforts. If that's you, stop by the wiki or our discord server to see how to best start that process.