Need help making a Dragon as a PC


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Me and a friend are about to start an OP/evil campaign, just us two against the world. I want to play an Umbral Dragon as a Brawler or Monk, and I need some help understanding the monsters as pcs rules. Can anyone out there help me make this character truly bada**?

Note: I plan on having a ring which allows me to take on human form, as well as a custom made Temple Sword. We're starting out at level 12

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Monster as pc rules is basically very simple:

Pick Juvenile Umbral Dragon CR 11 , add a class brawler 1 = CR 12

which would make you character somewhat equivalent to a level 12 player.

Now if your friend decides to play a normal character. You will get a level every 3 levels he get until half your cr, so 5x3 = 15 levels...guessing you aren't going to play epic...so how many levels are you going to get?

So if the games go to level 20, you will only get 2 additional levels.

Basically playing a very high CR monster is not very valuable.

Now of course if you and your friends are both monsters, the dm will let you know how to progress/level up.


I will be the other player, still working on my character but I am a drow blooded half elf wizard with the undead necromancer specialty. I will be taking agent of the grave and have a few levels of soul drinker, I will also have a cohort which I need to build that will be able to summon massive nbees of undead while I command a few high level intelligent undead. BUT the plan is for my character (who has convinced people he is already an undead god) to cask a custom ritual to have himself become reborn as a custom race with a custom template applied by the ritial, then he will becone a sangrolu, which I am trying to update for PF. After this he will have about 10 or so level adjustments from templates.

The reason for this is mainly for his storyline, the DM booted the character after he began his own cult and I had to roll another, but I convinced him to let me play out his quest to become a god. We will also be using mythic so that he can grant spells to his worshipers. Basically TaliesinCaster wants someone that will be able to wreck s*** and keep up with my sangrolu but be able to play from the start when we pick up ~5 years after the events of the last campaign, during which my character has been serving enslaved to an intelligent item building magical gear for the four horsemen.


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Dragon PC Race

the book listed with it has archetypes for most classes to level up and gain size, however there is also the racial class.

both the archetypes and racial class have draconic essence which for umbral dragon is

Quote:
Sadistic Alignment: chaotic evil; Energy: negative (does not heal undead); Breath Weapon: cone (1d4); Dragon Type: umbral. Compulsion: the draconic exemplar must make a Will save to resist significant opportunities to inflict pain on others, and to kill an enemy outright when extending their suffering is an option.

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I think I might be able to help you out here.


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Alexander Augunas wrote:
I think I might be able to help you out here.

from your own words (this is just a warning to anyone looking at his product) the dragon subraces are not intended to be used as PCs, but as cohorts.

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Bandw2 wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:
I think I might be able to help you out here.
from your own words (this is just a warning to anyone looking at his product) the dragon subraces are not intended to be used as PCs, but as cohorts.

Just because I designed them to be used as cohorts doesn't mean that you can't.

The dragon races in the Dragon Companion Handbook ARE Pathfinder's true dragons, right down to every last racial trait that they receive. They use the standard 0 HD rules for races and are more than able to be used by PCs if the GM so desires. In terms of their RP, they're six rp more expensive than the svnirfneblin and about 8 points cheaper than drow nobles, all of which are in the Advanced Race Guide.

So yeah, I designed the book with the assumption that you'd use it as a cohort, but it doesn't mean that you have to.

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