Title says it all, standard dex based fighter, wields a bardiche, but I can change the weapon if I have a good reason.
A dex fighter with a polearm? How's that work?
got it it through Phalanx Soldier;
At 3rd level, when a phalanx soldier wields a shield, he can use any polearm or spear of his size as a one-handed weapon.
So strap on a buckler, use Swashbucklers Finesse, and I'm good to go.
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I think you'd be better off with a 1 level dip in Swashbuckler itself. Their first level is basically the same sans saves except that the Swashbucker gets panache. At least since you're be getting armor proficiencies from fighter anyway.
Also - you're not limited to using a buckler with Swashbuckler's Finesse. Just if you're using Precise Strike.
But frankly - 4 levels is probably too much away from a spellcasting class anyway.
I don't think Swashbuckler's Finesse is going to work on a two-handed polearm. Phalanx Soldier 3 lets you use the Bardiche, for example, as a one-handed weapon, but it doesn't actually become a one-handed weapon, and Swashbuckler's Finesse only works on weapons that actually are one-handed.
just wanted options - honestly I thought Evangelist took the BAB of the Aligned Class. I think I'll reconcider taking levels in it.
anyone have suggestions for other options?
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I don't think Swashbuckler's Finesse is going to work on a two-handed polearm. Phalanx Soldier 3 lets you use the Bardiche, for example, as a one-handed weapon, but it doesn't actually become a one-handed weapon, and Swashbuckler's Finesse only works on weapons that actually are one-handed.
This has come up in other threads - with some disagreement - I'm actually on the side which says it should work. After all - in comparison to a lance when mounted which allows you to use it in one hand, but in all ways it still counts as being two-handed. (Strength damage/power attack etc.) On the other hand - a Phalanx Soldier lets you use a polearm "as a one-handed weapon" - so for that character he would, in all ways, treat it as a one-handed weapon.
It's a pretty solid combo with a high dex, slashing grace, and combat reflexes.
I don't think Swashbuckler's Finesse is going to work on a two-handed polearm. Phalanx Soldier 3 lets you use the Bardiche, for example, as a one-handed weapon, but it doesn't actually become a one-handed weapon, and Swashbuckler's Finesse only works on weapons that actually are one-handed.This has come up in other threads - with some disagreement - I'm actually on the side which says it should work. After all - in comparison to a lance when mounted which allows you to use it in one hand, but in all ways it still counts as being two-handed. (Strength damage/power attack etc.) On the other hand - a Phalanx Soldier lets you use a polearm "as a one-handed weapon" - so for that character he would, in all ways, treat it as a one-handed weapon.
It's a pretty solid combo with a high dex, slashing grace, and combat reflexes.
I think you're probably OK here. (If it said "in one hand" like the lance, you probably wouldn't be able to pull it off.) However, I would check with your GM before each game starts, because you will get table variation.
The way I
I was concidering replacing the Daring Champion levels with Skirnir Magus, But I havent done a magus before so I wasn't sure where to go.
There are no limitations placed by Phalanx Fighters using a polearm as a one handed weapon. My polearm is a one-handed weapon for all intents and purposes, including feats. The wording allows it.
Titan mauler on the other hand does not say I am wielding a two handed weapon as a one handed weapon, so it wouldn't work for Precise Strike.
If an Earthbreaker could do piercing, it would count with Thunder and Fang, a Lance while mounted wouldn't. It's all in the wording; If I am using a weapon as a one handed weapon, in one hand, doing one-handed power attack damage, doing 1x Str damage how can you tell me he isn't using a one handed weapon?
I'll also point out in terms of balance I am not doing any more damage that a bastard sword would in one hand.
I think you're probably OK here. (If it said "in one hand" like the lance, you probably wouldn't be able to pull it off.) However, I would check with your GM before each game starts, because you will get table variation.
This is exactly my point, using a two-handed weapon in one hand doesn't provide access to Precise Strike using a two-handed weapon as a one handed weapon does.
Also, I can no longer use Precise strike with my polearm if someone sunders my buckler.
Now that I see what you're doing, it actually makes perfect sense to me. For your character's purposes, a bardiche is a one-handed slashing weapon (that happens to be a reach and brace weapon). It qualifies for Slashing Grace.
I say good on ya. I personally have an easier time visualizing a finesse fighter weaving a glorified spear around than a dwarven waraxe, and that was already perfectly workable.
As for your original question; go with Shelyn. You'll have to switch to glaive instead of a bardiche, but that's not much different mechanically. You're just losing the brace property and a few pounds of weapon.
I do agree with the above posters that Evangelist may not be the greatest idea, but if you've got a good reason (like you want the crazy high skill points), four or eight levels isn't costing you all that much BAB.
Thats cool Dennis, not all GMs want their players to have fun :P
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I think that this would not work for Slashing Grace, in the same way I think it would not work if you had Jotungrip and wanted to do this for a greatsword. I think such class requirements (especially the more situational Phalanx Fighting) don't help such weapons qualify. I'd house-rule it in in a heartbeat, though.
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It's a non-bo. Just because something says "as a..." doesn't make it one. Same with mithril varients of heavy armor becoming medium; doesn't grant proficiency. The weapon type is still "two handed polearm", regardless of the number of hands you put on it.
If you do this you'd be cheating; pending having a GM house-rule to allow you to do it (it's not overpowered; it simply does not work... so some GMs may allow you to get away with it).
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Same with mithril varients of heavy armor becoming medium; doesn't grant proficiency.
That's because it specifically says that it doesn't grant proficiency. Actually - since the rules go out of their way to say that, it strongly implies that without that additional line in the rules, it would grant proficiency.
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I think it would not work if you had Jotungrip and wanted to do this for a greatsword.
You're correct in the above quote - "a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed melee weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so" - it allows you only to wield a two-handed melee weapon in one hand. It's only "treated as one-handed when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like".
For Phalanx Soldier you wield a polearm specifically "as a one-handed weapon". So - for a Phalanx Soldier the polearm is in all ways a one-handed weapon. Including slashing grace.
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The FAQ disagrees with you.
If you're wielding it in one hand (even if it is normally a two-handed weapon), treat it as a one-handed weapon for the purpose of how much Strength to apply, the Power Attack damage bonus, and so on.
Your class ability is treating the weapon as a one-handed weapon. This means it is a one-handed weapon for Str bonus, Power Attack bonus, and thanks to "and so on" anything else that is affected by the number of hands used.
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The FAQ disagrees with you.
If you're wielding it in one hand (even if it is normally a two-handed weapon), treat it as a one-handed weapon for the purpose of how much Strength to apply, the Power Attack damage bonus, and so on.Your class ability is treating the weapon as a one-handed weapon. This means it is a one-handed weapon for Str bonus, Power Attack bonus, and thanks to "and so on" anything else that is affected by the number of hands used.
Of course - with the exception of the lance when mounted. :P
I've been thinking about this some more; would there be any value to taking Martial Versatility (Slashing Grace) to expand it to all spears or all polearms? If you go around with a golfbag of polearms (and maybe take Quickdraw as well), you could be rather versatile. (You'd only get Weapon Focus on one of them unfortunately - at least until level 16.)
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I've been thinking about this some more; would there be any value to taking Martial Versatility (Slashing Grace) to expand it to all spears or all polearms? If you go around with a golfbag of polearms (and maybe take Quickdraw as well), you could be rather versatile. (You'd only get Weapon Focus on one of them unfortunately - at least until level 16.)
Not really. Even by the time you get the combo going at level 4, you'll probably have a magic weapon. You're going to want to use said magic weapon 95%+ of the time anyway.