Hybrid class archetypes and multiclassing with the base class


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Suppose you have a Hybrid class, say the Hunter, who takes an archetype, say Verminous Hunter.

Among other things this swaps the Hunter's Wilderness Stride for Swarm Step which are abilities you get at level 5. Now suppose the Hunter dips 2 levels into Druid. Normally at level 2, a Druid picks up Wilderness Stride.

So what happens if you have a Hunter 2/Druid 2? My intuition says you don't get both.

Phrased more generally, if you have a hybrid class with an archetype that trades a class feature, and then multiclass into a class that gives you access to the feature you traded with your archetype, what happens?

Do you get both features?

If multiclassing into the base class gives you earlier access to the feature, do you get the alternate feature early?

Are you unable to multiclass in this way unless your two classes are 'compatible,' i.e. you find a Druid archetype that also has Swarm Step?


Assuming you mean Woodland Stride, I can't see any reason why you would not get it at Druid level 2 (character level 4 in this case). Unless, of course, you take a Druid archetype that swaps it out as well.

Sovereign Court

You get both features.


lordofthenines wrote:
You get both features.

Wow really? That is interesting. Is there any reference or FAQ on this situation? Or is there just no rule preventing it.


Say you have a Magus archetype that trades away any armor proficiencies for other abilities. You can then take a level of Fighter to gain armor proficiencies. This doesn't let you cast while armored, it just allows you to wear armor and not take the penalties to attack for doing so.

A Cleric archetype that would give up Channel Energy for something else then multiclasses into Paladin for several levels, eventually picking up Channel Energy.

This is the way characters are made.

There is no FAQ or rule preventing or endorsing it. What you do with one class does not affect what you do with another unless explicitly told so.


Hmm ok. So in this specific case would you get Vermin Empathy and Animal Empathy?

Sczarni

You would get the class features of each class you multiclassed into.

If one of those classes grants Wild Empathy, and the other grants Vermin Empathy, then you'd receive both.

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