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Familiarity: “Very familiar” is a place where you have been very often and where you feel at home. “Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because you can currently physically see it or you've been there often. “Seen casually” is a place that you have seen more than once but with which you are not very familiar. “Viewed once” is a place that you have seen once, possibly using magic such as .
The spell itself says that scrying can be used to satisfy view once.
A discern location spell is among the most powerful means of locating creatures or objects. Nothing short of a mind blank spell or the direct intervention of a deity keeps you from learning the exact location of a single individual or object. Discern location circumvents normal means of protection from scrying or location. The spell reveals the name of the creature or object's location (place, name, business name, building name, or the like), community, county (or similar political division), country, continent, and the plane of existence where the target lies.
To find a creature with the spell, you must have seen the creature or have some item that once belonged to it. To find an object, you must have touched it at least once.
This spell says it gives you the exact location. However later on it says it gives you the name. Some are saying it gives you the name, but you do know where the place is, which to me means you do not know the exact location. I can drive through or to a small town without knowing the name. I can also know the name of a place I can't find so I don't see knowing where something is, and knowing the name as being equivalent.
The question is this--> How does Discern Location factor in when used with Scrying to qualify as familiarity for the Teleport spell?
Familiarity: “Very familiar” is a place where you have been very often and where you feel at home. “Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because you can currently physically see it or you've been there often. “Seen casually” is a place that you have seen more than once but with which you are not very familiar. “Viewed once” is a place that you have seen once, possibly using magic such as .
The spell itself says that scrying can be used to satisfy view once.
It sez "possibly". From what JJ has said and my own reading it seems that- You are not viewing a Location, you are viewing a Creature. From viewing that creature, you might get clues where it is from the background. "Aha, I see DrDeth is in the Library at the palace! I was there once". That's why it sez "possibly using magic such as scrying."
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It's an 8th level spell. I'd say it makes you pretty damn familiar with the location.
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I understand the counter argument, but I don't agree with it. If a GM wanted to apply it the way Diego says it works in his games, I'd be fine. It's just another way of playing the game.
However, if a GM wanted to make Scry and Fry harder, then I'd prefer what someone else suggested about making thick stone or underground or a particular cement or render block either or both Scrying and Teleportation.