Enemy Ship question

[rokeca]

For purposes of using cards like Blessing of Achaekek (i.e. add 2 diece to any check to defeat a villain or henchman), does the ship summoned by an Enemy Ship (or Devil's Pallor) count as a henchman? I'm thinking no, but wondering what others think.

Thanks!

[jones314]

rokeca wrote:

For purposes of using cards like Blessing of Achaekek (i.e. add 2 diece to any check to defeat a villain or henchman), does the ship summoned by an Enemy Ship (or Devil's Pallor) count as a henchman? I'm thinking no, but wondering what others think.

Thanks!

Your thinking is correct. Unless you are making a check directly to defeat a villain or henchman, the blessing just adds one die.

[Frencois]

jones314 wrote:

rokeca wrote:

For purposes of using cards like Blessing of Achaekek (i.e. add 2 diece to any check to defeat a villain or henchman), does the ship summoned by an Enemy Ship (or Devil's Pallor) count as a henchman? I'm thinking no, but wondering what others think.

Thanks!

Your thinking is correct. Unless you are making a check directly to defeat a villain or henchman, the blessing just adds one die.

Absolutely. If the content of the "check to defeat" box for an henchman is a value and a list of skill, then you benefif from the 2 dice. If it's "None" or "See Text" or whatever else, then you don't. And if you need to summon something fo example, then you also only get one die for any check against the summoned stuff.

This a generic rule. For example, it's the same for the closing of a location and the appropriate Blessing.

[jcraighead]

We consider Enemy Ship to be a generic place holder for the henchmen of that scenario. So whatever ship is summoned is considered a henchmen and the blessing counts for 2 dice. If this is not correct I would like to know.

[Hawkmoon269]

It is not correct. "Enemy Ship" is a henchman. The ship it summons is not. You are making a check to defeat the summoned ship (which is not a henchman). You are not making a check to defeat "Enemy Ship" (which is a henchman). So the blessing only adds 1 die.

The check you make against the summoned ship will determine whether "Enemy Ship" is defeated, but it is not itself a check to defeat "Enemy Ship" so it is not a check to defeat a henchman.

[Dave Riley]

We had some questions with that too, wondering if a Blessing of Gozreh could help to kill a crocodile to close a location. But yeah, the end result is there are no "placeholders." Pathfinder generally doesn't ask for that level of abstraction. Whatever card is asking you to do the check, that's the relevant card. So Gozreh can't help against a crocodile and Arbadar can't help against your check to defeat Man's Promise, even though it was summoned by Pirate Hunting.