Useful Druid Spells to cast while using Beastspeak?

[Rerednaw]

The new Advanced Class Guide had this little gem:
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/SpellDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Beastspeak

Now it doesn't explicitly say you can use somatic or melded material components/divine focus. I suppose you'll have to drop the spell compoment pouch + DF and carry it via a saddlebag or something after you shape. For somatics you're stuck I think until Natural Spell which makes this all moot.

That said what are good verbal only Druid spells to use? You can use Beastspeak at L3 so we'd be working with L1 and L2 spells to start.

[Imbicatus]

Seems like a waste of spell as you can retrain a feat to natural spell as soon as this becomes available anyway.

It's only benefit is if you didn't want to take Wild Speech feat as well.

[Avoron]

Druid Spells with only a verbal component:

0:
Flare

1:
Flare Burst
Liberating Command

2:

3:
Spit Venom

4:
Command Plants
Echolocation

5:

6:

7:
Animate Plants

8:
Word of Recall

9:

That's a depressingly small list. Luckily, we have things like Natural Spell and Still Spell.

[Rerednaw]

Imbicatus wrote:

Seems like a waste of spell as you can retrain a feat to natural spell as soon as this becomes available anyway.

It's only benefit is if you didn't want to take Wild Speech feat as well.

I wasn't aware you could retrain a feat into Natural Spell...thought it requires a level 5+ slot.

In any case, Beastspeak lets you cast while Wildshaped at 4th level. Natural Spell doesn't let you do this at 4th and a spell slot is something I consider to be less of an investment than a feat slot.

However given Beastspeak's limitations I wanted to see how workable it was. On the plus side having this handy saves you a wildshape if you need to communicate to your party without using creative shenanigans..

[Rerednaw]

Avoron wrote:

Druid Spells with only a verbal component:

<SNIP LIST>...all
9:

That's a depressingly small list. Luckily, we have things like Natural Spell and Still Spell.

Yeah that is a pretty short list...hurm.

[Imbicatus]

Natural spells only requirements are Wis 13 and Wild Shape. No reason you can't retrain to it.

[EgakuDrew]

Wouldn't technically everything be available if you took still spell?

[LazarX]

In order to cast a spell with Beastspeak it has to have verbal components only.