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Thinking of playing a Monk 18/ Unarmed Fighter 2 for my next character. I want to take the archetypes Master of many Styles/Hungry Ghost monk combo. My question is that the descriptions of the punishing kick feat are different in the hungry ghost archetype description and the feat itself description. Can the hungry ghost not knock people down with it until 15th level but if you just took the feat you can do it as soon as you can take it? So basically which ones right and which one do i use? I've copied the links from the SRD to make things easier.
Hungry Ghost Monk
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-a rchetypes/hungry-ghost-monk
Punishing Kick Feat
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/punishing-kick-combat
Why would you want to go to level 18 with a MoMS monk? You are gonna have a hard time hitting stuff.
The monk gets to both push and knock Down folks at level 15 at level 1 it is one or the other.
Thinking of playing a Monk 18/ Unarmed Fighter 2 for my next character. I want to take the archetypes Master of many Styles/Hungry Ghost monk combo. My question is that the descriptions of the punishing kick feat are different in the hungry ghost archetype description and the feat itself description. Can the hungry ghost not knock people down with it until 15th level but if you just took the feat you can do it as soon as you can take it? So basically which ones right and which one do i use? I've copied the links from the SRD to make things easier. I hope this hasn't already been answered i looked and couldnt find it. Thanks in advance for the help!
Hungry Ghost Monk
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-a rchetypes/hungry-ghost-monkPunishing Kick Feat
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/punishing-kick-combat
I Copied them Here as well.
Punishing Kick (Combat)
Your kicks are so powerful you use them to push or knock
back your foes.
Prerequisites: Con 13, Wis 13, Improved Unarmed
Strike, base attack bonus +8.
Benefit: You must declare that you are using this feat
before you make your attack roll (thus a failed attack roll
ruins the attempt). On a successful hit, the attack deals
damage normally and you can choose to push your target 5
feet or attempt to knock them prone. If you decide to push
the target, it is moved 5 feet directly away from you. This
movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity, and
the target must end this move in a safe space it can stand
in. If you decide to attempt to knock the target prone, the
target receives a Fortitude saving throw with a DC of 10 +
1/2 your character level + your Wisdom modifier to avoid
the effect. You may attempt a punishing kick attack once
per day for every four levels you have attained (but see
Special), and no more than once per round.
Special: A hungry ghost monk receives Punishing Kick
as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if he does not meet the
prerequisites. A monk may attempt a punishing kick
attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level,
plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in
classes other than monk.
Punishing Kick (Ex): At 1st level, a hungry ghost monk
gains Punishing Kick as a bonus feat, even if he does not
meet the prerequisites. At 10th level, and every five levels
thereafter, the monk can push the target of his Punishing
Kick an additional 5 feet (10 feet at 10th level, 15 feet at
15th level, and 20 feet at 20th level). At 15th level, he can
instead choose to push the target 5 feet and knock the
target prone with the same attack. The target still gets a
saving throw to avoid being knocked prone. This ability
replaces Stunning Fist.
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I don't understand the confusion. The Hungry Ghost ability enhances the base feat. At level 1, you get the feat and can use it normally. At level 10, when you choose the push option, you can push the target further. At level 15, you no longer have to choose push OR prone, you get push AND prone.