Clerics and Air Step


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ACG added the Air Step spell.

The ability to utilize this spell is dependent on having ranks in the Fly skill.

Fly skill wrote:
"You cannot take ranks in this skill without a natural means of flight or gliding. Creatures can also take ranks in Fly if they possess a reliable means of flying every day (either through a spell or other special ability)."

Does having access to this spell count for purposes of learning the Fly skill as access to a means of flight? If not, is there any way short of a magical item or a specific domain that a cleric can qualify to put ranks in the Fly skill?

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Ick. That's kinda murky. I'm honestly not sure which way I'd go on that.

EDIT: Thinking about it more, the spell doesn't actually let you fly, it just benefits from having ranks in Fly. So since you don't actually fly, I don't think it qualifies you for putting ranks in. As for clerical methods that aren't domains or items... being a tengu with the gliding alternate racial trait should work, since Fly explicitly mentions natural gliding. Not sure what else, though.

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There has been speculation that because a glider (500 gp in Ultimate Combat) lets you use Fly for piloting rolls, owning one will allow you to put ranks in Fly.

Scarab Sages

No. Having access to the spell does not qualify you for taking the Fly skill, because it functions as air walk, and air walk means you are walking, not flying.

This is really badly written, as the air being unstable should be an application of acrobatics for balance, not fly.


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I agree that acrobatics would have been a better choice, but since this is for PFS I've got to deal with the rules as written.

RainyDayNinja wrote:
There has been speculation that because a glider (500 gp in Ultimate Combat) lets you use Fly for piloting rolls, owning one will allow you to put ranks in Fly.

This is a possibility once I get some more money.

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