Hermit Crab

[MMCC79]

I almost hate to bring this topic up because of an old thread where they beat this guy to death, but it's not the same question...

I was playing last night and Merisiel didn't have a weapon, only Caltrops as an item. Hermit Crab came up and we had the discussion... The Caltrops will defeat a monster with a combat 9 and under. Boom! Hermit Crab defeated... or is it...

If the Hermit Crab is defeated reroll and use the second result.

If we treat the card as "try again", we could argue that the "roll" was the Caltrops which easily defeats him again. Rerolling simply applies the same method to defeat him.

If we treat the card as you have to defeat him twice, then we could argue that the first defeat was the Caltrops and now we have to defeat him again not using the Caltrops.

We played that the Caltrops got us past the first defeat, and then we rolled a regular combat to defeat him the second time.

[ThreeEyedSloth]

You're not making a second check against the hermit crab, you're simply rerolling the dice used. So any powers and cards used in the check initially still are used in the second roll, since it's not a new check or encounter.

[Andrew L Klein]

It is still the same check, but rerolling the dice and using the same exact cards.

So, you reroll no dice because you rolled none before, and the Caltrops still say you win.

Also, because it can lead to problems with cards and powers, note that in no way does the Caltrops ever count as a roll, nor does it ever count as defeating a monster using a certain number. So things like swarms are never defeated by the X more amount they require, and things like that.

[csouth154]

I am now (and probably will be all day) picturing someone throwing caltrops on the ground near a hermit crab and expecting....what, exactly?

[jones314]

csouth154 wrote:

I am now (and probably will be all day) picturing someone throwing caltrops on the ground near a hermit crab and expecting....what, exactly?

Crab kebabs!