Apparent Master (Spell)

[Cyrus Lanthier]

Simple question, really. This spell calls out Golems as viable targets, yet it allows spell resistance... Does it bypass Golem Magic Immunity, or does it just not work as (obviously) intended?

[themightyjello]

The spell also calls out animated objects, retrievers, and shield guardians which do not have immunity to magic or spell resistance. That part is obviously working as intended.

As for golems? They are immune to it RAW because it allows spell resistance, so it just does not work as (obviously) intended unless an errata is released.

Golems do have special exceptions to their spell immunity based on the type of golem but seeing as this spell does not explicitly call that out (whether an oversight or not) as written it would not affect any type of golem that has the magic immunity trait.

Since Golems cannot voluntarily lower their magic immunity like creatures can do with spell resistance it wouldn't even be possible to use that as a workaround. Without some way to negate the magic immunity, this spell simply does not work on golems.

[Cyrus Lanthier]

Yes, I was thinking the same thing... Unless this is considered a case of specific vs general, I think the spell won't work on Golems. It's just a little odd, because they could have easily left Golems off the list in the spell description.

[themightyjello]

I'm thinking that they wanted it to work on golems, but whoever wrote the spell out forgot about the magic immunity. It wouldn't be the first time that failure to proofread made an otherwise workable concept into something that simply does not function.

[Ughbash]

My thoguht is GENERALLY Golems are immune to spells with spell resitance unless it is listed in their description as affecting them.

This SPECIFICALLY effects Golems so overrides.

[Purple Dragon Knight]

Sorry for the thread necro... wondering if a ruling ever came out on that spell? thanks! (my 10th level psychic with Mnemonic Esoterica would like to know... :) )