So Iwas reading through the Technology Guide, and found the Savage Technologist, and am reaalllly interested in playing one, but I am confused by their rage.
A savage technologist can enter rage as a barbarian, except she gains a morale bonus to Strength and Dexterity instead of Strength and Constitution, and she does not take a penalty to Armor Class. She retains the bonus on Will saving throws. When a barbarian ability would increase the savage technologist's Strength while raging, it increases her Dexterity instead. This ability alters rage.
The part I'm confused on is the entries of adding the dex into the rage. It says it replaces con when you rage, but that when you would gain a bonus to strength, instead apply it to dex. This gives me three possibilities, one given to me by a friend.
1. It's a typo, and it's supposed to replace any con bonus through raging with dex.
2. You get the base strength bonus, the dex gets the increases and you get the con bonuses as normal, but only increasing by the same amount as the difference between rage and greater rage, so you'd get +2 con at greater and +4 con at mighty.
3. My friend thinks it means that other effects from rage effect it as so, but for greater and mighty rages, it effects both str and dex.
I really don't know which is right, if any of them are.
I read as thus:
Normally when you rage, you get a bonus to str and con, will bonus, and AC penalty. Now you get a bonus to str and dex, no will bonus, no AC penalty. This is similar to the urban barbarian.
Then, when a barbarian ability - such as a rage power - would increase strength (such as strength surge), it increases dex instead. So that rage power would be a dexterity surge.
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I've been reading it (and playing it) as +4 Str, +4 Dex, +2 Will saves, and no AC penalty. When I explain the class to people who are unfamiliar with it they laugh when I tell them, "Yeah, my AC goes up when I rage!".
I haven't read about any typos, and I wouldn't automatically assume there were any just by reading that passage. Seems to make sense to me. The ability is actually written rather cleanly compared to some others in the ACG.
yeah, Bartholomäus has the right of it.
and rage powers increase dex instead of str, it's not referencing rage itself.
So the str increases from greater and mighty rage aren't changed into dex?
So the str increases from greater and mighty rage aren't changed into dex?
Correct. Str and Dex increase instead of Str and Con for Rage, Greater Rage, and Mighty Rage. And then, separately, any other Str increases are then changed to Dex - such as the Strength Surge rage power.
Since most technology is firearm based - with all the new cool plasma rifles and whatnot - they're alowing the barbarian to benefit increasing their dex when raging and using rage powers instead of the relativey useless strength or con stat (since strength and constitution do not come into play when firing a gun).
I'm actually thinking this probably was supposed to have con to dex. or the rage was supposed to be dex and con, either options make more sense, though I favor the first.
I'm actually thinking this probably was supposed to have con to dex. or the rage was supposed to be dex and con, either options make more sense, though I favor the first.
Which rage power raises con?
I'm actually thinking this probably was supposed to have con to dex. or the rage was supposed to be dex and con, either options make more sense, though I favor the first.Which rage power raises con?
the actual text says "ability" greater and mighty rage count as barbar abilities. :P
the actual text says "ability" greater and mighty rage count as barbar abilities. :PI'm actually thinking this probably was supposed to have con to dex. or the rage was supposed to be dex and con, either options make more sense, though I favor the first.Which rage power raises con?
If that's the case, then your first option doesn't make sense. The first half of the paragraph states strength and dex instead of strength and con. That is clearly in reference to rage, greater rage, and mighty rage. Then it stats that you change any ability that increases strength to dex.
If you think that's supposed to read, "change any ability that increases con to dex," then they just wrote a redundant statement, as it already says to change Str and con to str and dex. Additionally, it's the only barbarian ability that increases con. There's no rage powers that increase con, and no other barbarian ability that increases con.
However, your second option could make perfect sense; if it was supposed to be dex and con all along. So not only is the three Rae abilities changed, but so are any rage powers (because there is at least one rage power that increases strength).
So either your second option or my interpretation of the rules as it fits would be a good option for the OP to use. as a GM, I'd be fine with either - I'd just let the player decide what s/he wants.
/got a new iPhone; my auto corrects are all different from my old android, and I miss more of my mistakes. :(