| Jeff Clem |
Can you use Hungry Ghost Monk Life Funnel ability through a weapon if it has Ki Focus Magic Weapon Special Ability?
Ki Focus
Price +1 bonus
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Weight —
DESCRIPTION
This special ability can be placed only on melee weapons.
The magic weapon serves as a channel for the wielder's ki, allowing her to use her special ki attacks through the weapon as if they were unarmed attacks. These attacks include the monk's ki strike, quivering palm, and the Stunning Fist feat (including any condition that the monk can apply using this feat).
| Dimminsy |
"...allowing her to use her special ki attacks through the weapon ..."
(quoting Life Funnel) "If the monk has at least 1 ki point in his ki pool and scores a confirmed critical hit against a living enemy or reduces a living enemy to 0 or fewer hit points, he heals a number of hit points equal to his monk level."
I'll go ahead and say I'm not an expert on the Monk. However, I don't think Life Funnel is a "special ki attack" but rather just a passive ability that relies on you having a remaining ki point. I think you actually have to expend a ki point for it to count as a special ki attack.
| Jeff Clem |
"...allowing her to use her special ki attacks through the weapon ..."
(quoting Life Funnel) "If the monk has at least 1 ki point in his ki pool and scores a confirmed critical hit against a living enemy or reduces a living enemy to 0 or fewer hit points, he heals a number of hit points equal to his monk level."
I'll go ahead and say I'm not an expert on the Monk. However, I don't think Life Funnel is a "special ki attack" but rather just a passive ability that relies on you having a remaining ki point. I think you actually have to expend a ki point for it to count as a special ki attack.
Just because your not spending any Ki it's still powered by your Ki which makes it a Ki special attack.
| Zwordsman |
I wasn't under the impression that that ability was a special ki attack. Life funnel isn't an attack it's something triggered by an attack.
So i was under the impression it worked no matter what you crit with. Hungry ghost doesn't restrict it's Ki altering effects to anything until the lv 13 which only specifies Melee attack. So the prior only require a confirmed critical
So really I don't think this falls under any need for special ki attack. As they are not attacks, they are just triggered by an attacks' critical or a kill similar to Grit regaining effects.
Special Ki attacks are attacks. It even lists some examples Ki strike, stunning fist, quivering, meudusa strike, punishing kick, elemental fist,etc. Ki regaining effects aren't under that sorta thing.
so really hungry ghosts can regain ki points, hp and such via long range skills as well. A hungr yghost Quingong with any of the attack spells could regain life and ki via a long range SLA.
It basically makes you kinda like a video game character (old devil may cry comes to mind) who hits things and absorbs hp and ki from a range.
| Zwordsman |
Good catch, Zword. Life Funnel is a passive ability that works regardless of the weapon (or fist) you're using. So no need for the Ki Focus property if that's all you're after.
Thanks! I love that archetype. It lets do a lot of amusing things if you've got some crit ability. Especially at higher level quingong stuff.
Though the BAB always hurts if your not a flurry of blows type.