| Thelemic_Noun |
I'm trying to create a high-level oceanid (Bestiary 4 p. 208) antagonist, and gave her 1 level of sorcerer (aquatic bloodline), 1 level of fighter, and 10 levels of eldritch knight.
So here are the feats taken over those 12 levels:
Feats: Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Weapon Focus (waterspout), Shot on the Run, Weapon Specialization (waterspout), Improved Precise Shot (waterspout), Vital Strike, Devastating Strike, Improved Vital Strike, Greater Vital Strike.
My question: Is an attack with the waterspout (which, though part of a supernatural ability, does not get its own Su entry, and is called out as a ranged attack rather than a ranged touch attack) eligible for Vital Strike and Improved Point-Blank Mastery?
If so, then between her Shot-on-the-Run feat, 80-foot swim speed, and 28d6+8 waterspout with a Quickened true strike, she might actually present a competent high-level foe, unlike most mid-level fey with class levels other than pure martial.
If I give her access to the druid list, barksin + mage armor + shield will give her a respectable AC for the level, but she'll be over 100 hp below par, and her saves are abysmal.
Any ideas?
| Pahlok |
You could use Vital Strike with waterspout, but not with Shot on the Run. This is because Vital Strike can only be used with the Attack Action, which is a specific kind of standard action, and Shot on the Run is a full round action that just lets you make an attack, and it's not considered an Attack Action.
| Rambear |
i believe that eldritch knight requires you to Able to cast 3rd-level arcane spells., i am not sure that Spell like ability's count towards this do they ?
If Oceanid has a Spell Like Ability which mimics a 3rd level arcane spell then it does. Big-to-do like a year ago about SLAs allowing you to qualify for feats, which has since been expanded to Prestige Classes.
A reated FAQ also answered how to assign a level to spell like abilities.
| Thelemic_Noun |
You could use Vital Strike with waterspout, but not with Shot on the Run. This is because Vital Strike can only be used with the Attack Action, which is a specific kind of standard action, and Shot on the Run is a full round action that just lets you make an attack, and it's not considered an Attack Action.
Yet another reason Vital Strike sucks.