Minimum Spells Known

[Echoen]

Greetings,

I have a question for all those archetypes that reduce the number of spells that you know.

Is there a mimumum of 1 spell known?

For example, Crossblooded sorcerers know 1 fewer spell per level. Does this mean at level 4 they know 0 2nd level spells?

I would assume that there is a minimum number of spells known.

[Bigdaddyjug]

No. If the archetype drops your spells known to 0, you don't gain new spells known at that level.

[claudekennilol]

It's my understanding that you still get your bonus spell from your caster stat if your stat is high enough, though.

[Brf]

Caster stat only affects spells-per-day, not spells known.

[LazarX]

No matter how many times you ask, the answer is that if you're a crossblooded sorcerer you don't get to cast 2nd level spells until you hit level 5.

[Jiggy]

LazarX wrote:

No matter how many times you ask

Has this person actually asked more than once?

[Bigdaddyjug]

LazarX wrote:

No matter how many times you ask, the answer is that if you're a crossblooded sorcerer you don't get to cast 2nd level spells until you hit level 5.

While the intent of this statement is true, its content is actually untrue. You still have 2nd level spell slots and you could use them to cast 1st level spells with a +1 metamagic feat added to them. You could also purchase a 2nd level page of spell knowledge for 4,000g and have a 2nd level spell to cast.

As a cross-blooded sorcerer, you just don't have any innate spells known until level 5.

[blahpers]

Bigdaddyjug wrote:

LazarX wrote:

No matter how many times you ask, the answer is that if you're a crossblooded sorcerer you don't get to cast 2nd level spells until you hit level 5.

While the intent of this statement is true, its content is actually untrue. You still have 2nd level spell slots and you could use them to cast 1st level spells with a +1 metamagic feat added to them. You could also purchase a 2nd level page of spell knowledge for 4,000g and have a 2nd level spell to cast.

As a cross-blooded sorcerer, you just don't have any innate spells known until level 5.

This is the most complete answer given so far.

[Cuttler]

Also, for those using retraining, you could retrain a feat to gain expanded arcana to get a 2nd level spell known

also can use those 2nd level slots to cast lower level spells (with or without metamagic