Deities and subdomain exclusions


Rules Questions

Shadow Lodge

Clerics get domains. The APG talks about subdomains which can be swapped out for specific domains. But as far as I can see, in neither of these books, I've seen talk about certain restrictions on some deities which don't allow subdomains for their relative domain.

Gozreh, for example, has the Animal domain, replaceable with the Feather subdomain.

This wiki page seems to think Gozreh gets Animal but not Feather.
This comment on Tark's Cleric guide points out that Tark incorrectly allowed the Feather domain for Gozreh, which Tark later agrees with and corrects.
This comment and its following comments suggest every divine caster might be looking at that wiki page.

However.

There are other comments around the place suggesting (maybe wrongly?) that everyone looked at the wiki and the wiki maybe forgot to include it by accident.

This is just one example; they all seem to work like this according to that wiki, because deities all have 5 domains and they only list about 6 or 7 subdomains, even though every domain has 2-3 associated subdomains.

The million dollar question:

Where's the wording about only specific deities allowed to take specific subdomains? Especially for the core deities?


APG p86 wrote:
A cleric who chooses a subdomain must have access to both the domain and its subdomain from her deity (see Table 2–12).

APG p91 has Table 2-12 and lists which subdomains each deity has.

Feather is not in Gozreh's list and thus while a cleric of Gozreh can take Animal they cannot take Feather.


Each of the deities has specific domains and within those domains many have specific subdomains. Like Pharasma is the goddess of death, but oddly enough has none of death's subdomains. Meanwhile, Urgathoa has access to death and through it undead.

Shadow Lodge

Thanks Gauss!

That table isn't in the PRD (since it contains the deities, I guess). Seems important! There's not even any wording about it; just that table.

Dark Archive

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Inner Sea Gods also has expanded tables for subdomains for the expanded pantheon of the gods. All of them.

Grand Lodge

Bardez wrote:
Inner Sea Gods also has expanded tables for subdomains for the expanded pantheon of the gods. All of them.

Innser Sea Gods doesn't contain the eastern gods, though. At least not the one who has a tetsubo as a favored weapon and has fire, earth, water, and air (and one other) domains.

It does still have a ridiculous amount of other gods, though. And is just an awesome book, in general.

Dark Archive

claudekennilol wrote:
Bardez wrote:
Inner Sea Gods also has expanded tables for subdomains for the expanded pantheon of the gods. All of them.

Innser Sea Gods doesn't contain the eastern gods, though. At least not the one who has a tetsubo as a favored weapon and has fire, earth, water, and air (and one other) domains.

It does still have a ridiculous amount of other gods, though. And is just an awesome book, in general.

Correction: Most of them. Dragon Empires Gazetteer does have the eastern gods' subdomains, at least.

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