Sash of Armor Ease (Sash of the War Champion for non-fighters)

[Splendor]

So apparently most people believe a non-fighter does not gain any benefit from the Sash of the War Champion, so how about something similar that anyone can use.

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Sash of Armor Ease

Aura moderate abjuration; CL 9th
Slot chest; Price 8,000 gp; Weight 1 lb.

DESCRIPTION

This bright red strip of cloth, stitched with images of a cheering crowd throwing garlands toward a chariot, fits across the wearer's shoulders and then diagonally down his chest to reach his opposite hip.

When the wearer is wearing armor, he reduces the armor check penalty by 1 (to a minimum of 0) and increases the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor by 1. In addition, he also move at his normal speed while wearing medium armor.
If the wearer is a fighter of third level or higher then his armor training class feature is treated as if it was 4 levels higher.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Wondrous Item, cat's grace; Cost 4,000 gp

Comments?

[Umbranus]

I would not allow such an item. And especially not for so low a price.

[Splendor]

So what would you price it at?

[Umbranus]

How would you Price an item letting you rage as a third Level barbarian? How one that gives you the paladin's Aura of Courage?

It is hard to Price. There is one similar item to what you want and that is the bane baldric. It costs 10000 but gives an ability that is much weaker than the original ability.

And using the same drawback for the sash would not be the same as most PCs Change their weapons more often than their suits of armor.

I could see it changed a little and priced around 12000.

Armor baldric wrote:

If the wearer is not a fighter, she gains the armor Training ability of a 3rd-level fighter, but must first attune a medium armor to the baldric by putting it on it without wearing it for 24 hours, and can only use the armor training ability with the attuned armor. Attuning a new armor to the baldric ends the attunement for the previous armor.

But that is just IF you think you have to incorporate such an item into your game. Generally I'm still thinking it should not be possible to emulate an ability like armor training via equipment.

writing Errors:

My Auto correct is set to another languages and sometimes messes up written english.

Edit: This should be in the homebrew board

[Bigdaddyjug]

Well, the bane baldric gives you the Bane ability of a 5th level inquisitor, and it costs 10,000. Mix would argue Armor Training 1 is significantly weaker than Bane, so 8,000 seems like a reasonable price. I'm still not a fan of wondrous items that give you other class' class features.

[Zhangar]

It's more or less an item that lets you treat every medium armor as though it's made of mithril. And move at all full speed in heavy armor made of mithril.

I'd make it much more expensive or not allow it at all.

[Karuth]

I think an item like that is not that far out. After all there is the Monk's Robe that gives you class abilities of a level 5 Monk at 13000 gold.
You get +1 dodge AC bonus and 1d8 damage for your fists (if you are not a Monk). You also get 1 extra Stunning Fist if you have the feat.

Compared to that, the Sash is not really more powerful I'd say. The 12000 sound pretty okay to me.

[Umbranus]

Zhangar wrote:

It's more or less an item that lets you treat every medium armor as though it's made of mithril. And move at all full speed in heavy armor made of mithril.

I'd make it much more expensive or not allow it at all.

That's why I suggested that it only works on medium armor. As heavy mithral armor only counts as medium for movement it will not work with the version I suggested.

..damn autocorrect..

[Splendor]

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Special Material: Mithral

A character wearing mithral full plate must be proficient in wearing heavy armor to avoid adding the armor's check penalty to all his attack rolls and skill checks that involve moving. Spell failure chances for armors and shields made from mithral are decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0).

A) Mithral is better, this item does not treat all armor as mithral.

B) Mithral is cheaper (at 12,000gp), Hvy armor is +9,000gp.
C) It works with Mithral, this is a bonus.
D) It works with that new cool armor you just found, this is the main bonus.

I was actually looking at it for multi-classed non-wizard characters to wear. Lowering the ACP and increasing the max dex is what all rogues want. Being able to move faster is what all melee armored characters want.

Bane baldric gives you a class ability of a 5th level inquisitor for 10,000gp.
Monk's Robe give you two class abilities of a 5th level monk for 13,000.
At 12,000gp price this items gives you a 3rd level class ability, which is more expensive than the other two (based on cost vs lv of class feature).

Yes if your character has mithral full plate and this item he would be able to move his full base speed. But mithral full plate and Boots of expeditious retreat (4,000) would allow your character a movement of 40 and would be cheaper.