Swashbuckler precise strike: must weapon be peircing or can it be just light?

[brightshadow360]

as written:

Precise Strike (Ex): At 3rd level, while she has at least 1
panache point, a swashbuckler gains the ability to strike
precisely with a light or one-handed piercing melee
weapon (though not natural weapon attacks), adding
her swashbuckler level to the damage dealt.

my question is:

A. Does the text refer to piercing weapons that are either light or one handed

OR

B. Does the text refer to one handed piercing weapons or light weapons?

Basicly, I want to know if I can unarmed strike without having to jump through hoops to do it. so far, text in other areas (kata master monk archetype) and certain posts by the devs ("Use snake style to get your kung-foo on!") seem to imply option B.

[Benchak the Nightstalker]

Pretty sure it's A. You have to read the line a bit funny to get it to say B, in my opinion.

Not sure how kata master or snake style support option B. Snake style lets you do piercing damage with your unarmed strikes, and kata master has a specific callout to let you use unarmed strikes in place of light or one-handed melee attacks for your panache stuff.

I think if you want to unarmed strike precise strike, your unarmed strike being a light weapon is not enough. You'll need some way to deal piercing damage with your attack (such as Snake Style) or some other specific exception. Hoops, if you will.

[RumpinRufus]

Let's go one step farther: does it refer to a one-handed piercing melee weapon, or a light?

Because if you carefully swing a lantern into just the right part of someone's... special area... that's gonna hurt!

[Navarion]

Something that has bothered me for a while and seems to fit into this thread: What if you use a light P or S weapon? Do you lose all swashbuckler benefits when you use it to inflict slashing damage?

[Kazaan]

If it does P or S damage, you only benefit from an ability that requires a piercing weapon if you're dealing piercing damage because it's a matter of use. If you deal slashing damage with it, you aren't really precisely piercing the opponent, now are you? Now, if it dealt B and P damage, that'd be a whole other story because the ability doesn't say piercing and only piercing.

[brightshadow360]

Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:

Pretty sure it's A. You have to read the line a bit funny to get it to say B, in my opinion.

Not sure how kata master or snake style support option B. Snake style lets you do piercing damage with your unarmed strikes, and kata master has a specific callout to let you use unarmed strikes in place of light or one-handed melee attacks for your panache stuff.

I think if you want to unarmed strike precise strike, your unarmed strike being a light weapon is not enough. You'll need some way to deal piercing damage with your attack (such as Snake Style) or some other specific exception. Hoops, if you will.

Ah. I ment to say option A. Even getting confused in my own post

[brightshadow360]

Navarion wrote:

Something that has bothered me for a while and seems to fit into this thread: What if you use a light P or S weapon? Do you lose all swashbuckler benefits when you use it to inflict slashing damage?

Presumably yes, you lose them. But that only matters in Damage reduction situations unless your DM is big on details like that. Even then, that assumes option A. if option B is the case, then you can even do bludgeoning dmg if the weapon is light.