Odd Str. wizard build needs some fleshing out...


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We are currently doing a Lvl 20 campaign where the premise is that we are lesser gods crammed into mortal shells. I'm hitting a creative wall so I came for some help/input.

First here are the constraints:

25 point buy

No 3rd party or homebrew, but the rest of the rules books are up for grabs.

Only have access to three +5 lvl items or equivilants (~50k gold value each). These items are the relics that people who worship you would immediately be able to identify you with. everything else is mundane.

My goal for the character is to make a wizard that is a god of physical enhancement, I think of him as a mix of Master roshi, and Armstrong from fullmetal alchemist.

Here is what I have so far:

Mendus the Wizard- lvl 20 Human Wizard-Transmutation/Enhancement

Core Stats (sorry if the rows don't line up)

|Base__|Race|lvl_|Class|Feat|Total|
Str:15_ |+2 |+2 | +5__|+6 | 30 |
Dex:12 |+0 |+0 | +0__|+0 | 12 |
Con:12 |+0 |+1 | +5__|+0 | 18 |
Int:15_ |+2 |+2 | +0__|+0 | 19 |
Wis:10 |+0 |+0 | +0__|+0 | 10 |
Cha:15 |+0 |+0 | +0__|+0 | 15 |

Human- chose duel talent for +2 to str and con (or dex?).

Also unsure which would be more effective 18con/12dex or 12con/18dex...

Favored school- Enhancement (Transmutation)
School bonus- +5 to two physical attributes at lvl 20.

Feats so far:
Skill focus-spellcraft
Skill focus-Knowledge (planes)
ELdrich Heritage - Abyssal- gain claw ability
Improved Eldrich Heritage - Abyssal- choosing Strength of the abyss (+6 str)
Brew potion
Metamagic- Extend
Arcane Discovery- Idealize (+4 to enhancement bonuses granted by transmutation spells.)

Any ideas on feats would be very helpful.

God relics so far:

The Staff of Mendus- a +2 weaponized immovable rod (treating as +1). Follows quarterstaff stats, another +2 towards impact enchantment. also my arcane bonded item.

I need insparation for 2 more relics...

Mendus's main goal for combat is to buff the party like crazy, cast enlarge person on self, and then cast Transformation to hit things with his staff...really hard.

There is a lot left to flesh out with the character but im hitting a wall so any input would be appreciated.


Get the entire Dimensional Agility feat chain and outflank. I wouldn't do Transformation. And Enlarge Person? Pffft, at 20 you are looking at giant form or form of the dragon.


Hawktitan wrote:
Get the entire Dimensional Agility feat chain and outflank. I wouldn't do Transformation. And Enlarge Person? Pffft, at 20 you are looking at giant form or form of the dragon.

At level 20 shapechange and a ring of continuation.


Are you really sure you want to do this? Basically you are taking all the cosmic power of a 20th level wizard to probably achieve the DPR of a 15th level barbarian. If you love the flavor, that is fine, but unless the other PCs are similarly optimized you probably won't be able to be very effective in the role you have envisioned for this character.

Now one advantage you have is that WBL is very low, and this will favor spell casters heavily, and of course you will still have all the power of a wizard, even if you choose to just beat things up, so you will have flexibility if you want it. However, building your stats in that way will make you spell DCs quite low, once again limiting some options.

It is also important to remember that your Physical Enhancement class ability is an enhancement bonus and won't stack with spells or items that give an enhancement bonus to those stats.

For items, assuming you are facing challenge ratings appropriate to your level, you pretty much have to get a +5 resistance bonus or you will be pretty vulnerable on saves. A +5 cloak or resistance will cost you 1/2 of the single item cap, which means, assuming custom items are allow (and they seem to be from your post) we could add another cloak item to this worth about ~16,000 (second effect is *1.5). That leaves quite a few options and you can look at them all for the flavor you like best, but I think the Tentacle Cloak fits pretty well and would be fairly cool.

I probably wouldn't worry too much about AC. Sure you will through a few spells to bump it up, but probably anything that can target you will hit your ac, you just don't have enough money to get it high enough to matter against a significant foe. Mirror Image and the like will have to save you most of the time. That said, a Jingassa of the Fortunate Soldier giving a +1 luck bonus and the ability to negate a crit could well be a life saver. Obviously by itself that is way to cheap to be a relic, but adding other items to it should allow us to come up with something pretty cool. Personally I think a cat's eye crown and helm of the mammoth lord would be interesting additions, and kind of fitting your transmutation theme.

Grand Lodge

Dave Justus wrote:
Are you really sure you want to do this? Basically you are taking all the cosmic power of a 20th level wizard to probably achieve the DPR of a 15th level barbarian.

Well, considering he made a post about it and all, I'm going to go with 'yes'. If he wanted something else, like a dpr barbarian, I am sure the information he gave wouldn't be for a transmutation wizard.


Mayhem Havocrain wrote:
Dave Justus wrote:
Are you really sure you want to do this? Basically you are taking all the cosmic power of a 20th level wizard to probably achieve the DPR of a 15th level barbarian.
Well, considering he made a post about it and all, I'm going to go with 'yes'. If he wanted something else, like a dpr barbarian, I am sure the information he gave wouldn't be for a transmutation wizard.

Flavor is definitely the prority with my playgroup. Thank you all for your posts, it has given me several things to think about.

Stonebow, the ring of continuation is a great idea! I am going to take it and make it a little more specialized so that the effective price would be a bit lower. I am pretty sure that if I made it work only with transmuation spells my gm would aggree that it would fall below the 50k threshold. For flavor I also may make it into a pair of gloves, If I'm lucky I may even be able to make the gloves reinforced into quasi-iron knuckles.

Dave, thanks for bringing up the enhancement bonus aspect of the Transmutation school as well as several other great points. I'm not sure how I missed that major detail!


Also I wonder if a sorcerer would work well for you. The Dragon Disciple prestige class works great for a spellslinger/guy who beats your face in.

Alternatively prestidge classing into EK may be something you look into for a wizard. Higher BAB and more feats.

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