Q: Buying Feats / Additional Attacks

[RobAGD]

Ok I haven't seen anything in the Core Rules book, can someone but say Dodge or Improved initiative twice ?

The other thing is I am building a 15th level Fighter NPC type, I like to have them fully flushed out.

This build is a Soldier, so as part of the build he would have 16 feats, the build I have at this point is :

Improved Init
Weapon Focus (Hand Axes)
Greater Weapon Focus (Hand Axe)
Weapon Specialization (Hand Axe)
Greater Weapon Specialization (Hand Axe)
Great Fort
Iron Will
Two Weapon Fighting
Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Critical Focus
Dodge

So if I did the numbers right at 15th Level BAB is 15/10/5 for normal attacks, with two weapon and Improved Two Weapon giving me the 2nd off hand attack. What would the BAB be for those attacks?

I think a bit to linearly on these issues sometimes.

Danke

-Robert

[Ipslore the Red]

Not unless the feat specifically says you can.

[Pupsocket]

RobAGD wrote:

So if I did the numbers right at 15th Level BAB is 15/10/5 for normal attacks, with two weapon and Improved Two Weapon giving me the 2nd off hand attack. What would the BAB be for those attacks?

At level 15, you have a BAB of 15, and attacks at "Full BAB", "BAB -5" and "BAB -10"; your off-hand attacks would be "Full BAB" and "BAB-5".

[Lakesidefantasy]

RobAGD wrote:

So if I did the numbers right at 15th Level BAB is 15/10/5 for normal attacks, with two weapon and Improved Two Weapon giving me the 2nd off hand attack. What would the BAB be for those attacks?

Looks good to me.

Assuming he has a strength of 10 and is fighting with a normal hand axe in each hand, his attack routine would be: hand axe +15/+10/+5 (1d6+4/x3) and hand axe +15/+10 (1d6+4/x3)

[Lakesidefantasy]

RobAGD wrote:

Ok I haven't seen anything in the Core Rules book, can someone but say Dodge or Improved initiative twice ?

You can't take Dodge or Improved Initiative more than once as a feat. But, at the moment I don't see anything in the rules as they are written to stop you from doing just that.

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

Under Feat Descriptions:

Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description.

So it sounds like you can take a feat twice, it just does absolutely nothing unless the feat specifically says otherwise.

[Lakesidefantasy]

Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:

Under Feat Descriptions:

Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description.

So it sounds like you can take a feat twice, it just does absolutely nothing unless the feat specifically says otherwise.

Well ain't that something. I just kept reading over that again and again.

I'll have to choose Dodge twice for my next Pathfinder Society character.

[RobAGD]

Thanks one and all.

So for the feats that which is not expressly denied is allowed ? :D

So cool I have a 4' tall Hand Axe wielding Cuisinart. Perfect.

So STR 18 = +4

So to Attack = +1 Weapon Focus. +1 Greater Wep Focus, +4 STR Bns, -2 Two Wep Penalty )Two Weapon Feat and Weapon is Light ) Total Attack bonus +4

Damage is 1d6 + 4 STR Bns, +2 Weapon Specialization, +2 Greater Wep Specialization = 1d6+8

Nice, still kicking around maybe going with Cleave and great cleave with some of the remaining feats.

Thanks again

-R

[RobAGD]

Nice catch I must have selective reading lol, I read that section a few times and never caught that line.

Danke

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

RobAGD wrote:

So for the feats that which is not expressly denied is allowed ? :D

No, the feat has to say it can be taken more than once, otherwise taking it a second time has no effect.

[Lakesidefantasy]

RobAGD wrote:

So cool I have a 4' tall Hand Axe wielding Cuisinart. Perfect.

If by 4' tall you mean he is a small sized character, then go ahead and add a +1 to those attacks.

[Deighton Thrane]

Just remember, without double slice, one attack does 1d6+8, the other does 1d6+6 due to the strength penalty on off hand attacks.

[dragonhunterq]

RobAGD wrote:

So STR 18 = +4

So to Attack = +1 Weapon Focus. +1 Greater Wep Focus, +4 STR Bns, -2 Two Wep Penalty )Two Weapon Feat and Weapon is Light ) Total Attack bonus +4

Damage is 1d6 + 4 STR Bns, +2 Weapon Specialization, +2 Greater Wep Specialization = 1d6+8

-R

Don't forget, unless you have double slice your off hand attacks only do 1d6+6 damage.

EDIT - ninja'd