Whip of Spiders, Whip of Ants


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This spell looks like fun, but I am confused about two things:

Is the Distraction and poison DC are based off the creature or the Spell Level? While it does say to use the creature's DC (those are really low), there are spells that use Spell DC instead of the creature.

The Whip of Ants does 3d6 Damage plus poison and distraction. I looked at the Army Ant Swarm, and that didn't have any Poison attack on it. So, was it supposed to be Cling instead?

Is there a way to make the Whip bypass Magic DR from a spell? I was thinking maybe a spell like Magic Fang/Weapon, but it is a single weapon (which it would work)and also a swarm (which it wouldn't work).

Grand Lodge

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Charberus wrote:
Is the Distraction and poison DC are based off the creature or the Spell Level? While it does say to use the creature's DC (those are really low), there are spells that use Spell DC instead of the creature.

The wording of the spells suggests to me that it uses the swarm's DC.

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The Whip of Ants does 3d6 Damage plus poison and distraction. I looked at the Army Ant Swarm, and that didn't have any Poison attack on it. So, was it supposed to be Cling instead?

I see two possible answers. One, it's a misprint and it's supposed to say cling. Two, they wanted it to have poison and distraction. I would say it should be cling since it reads "as if it were attacked by an army ant

swarm".

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Is there a way to make the Whip bypass Magic DR from a spell? I was thinking maybe a spell like Magic Fang/Weapon, but it is a single weapon (which it would work)and also a swarm (which it wouldn't work).

I would say no since it's not an actual object.

Shadow Lodge

Do you need the whip feat to use this spell without penalty?


Given that it says you use it as if it were an actual whip, I'd say you do.


Pretty sure that the spell mentions you can use it proficiently.

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