Countersong vs fireball Pathfinder 2e


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So what we are trying to solve is can a bard who is around the corner use countersong to counter a fireball that he can't see with his auditory performance.

Does he need to be able to identify the spell being cast?


Do you mean counter performance?

If so, fireball cannot be countered since the spell doesn't have the

Auditory or visual effect

Fireball ( evocation, fire)

https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=119

Counter performance

https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=381

You can also check here for the whole traits list ( click on any of them to see all the related stuff ).

https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx

Note that both Auditory and visual are in the first part.


Tree-Fiddy wrote:

So what we are trying to solve is can a bard who is around the corner use countersong to counter a fireball that he can't see with his auditory performance.

Does he need to be able to identify the spell being cast?

Wait I think we found it. Under the spells the traits listed have to be auditory or visual. Player was under the impression that if they were countering a spell that had verbal or somatic components they could counter. It felt really off to some of us but we are still learning.


K1 wrote:

Do you mean counter performance?

If so, fireball cannot be countered since the spell doesn't have the

Auditory or visual effect

Fireball ( evocation, fire)

https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=119

Counter performance

https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=381

You can also check here for the whole traits list ( click on any of them to see all the related stuff ).

https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx

Note that both Auditory and visual are in the first part.

Yes sorry meant counter performance.

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