Forgotten PvE - Death of the Environment

[Sluce]

celestialiar wrote:

Quests... esp gather quests are not good. You go farm 8 eyes cuz you wanna make a staff not because Shermal tells you to

I think that if they ever did a themeparky quest system that it would be best to do more of like missions that are tied to in game events that are going on. For instance you are aligned with a certain faction and as such you can accept missions from that faction that tie into events that are going on. These could include assassination of players etc...

Also, you could tie it into the religion system. Lets say you are praying at a shrine and suddenly your deity gives you a mission etc.. You guys get the drift :D

[Quintalmot]

There will not be gather quests as such, but there have been some things included in the escalations to bring N of X to cast spell to ….

There are achievements that require gathering to advance gathering type skills higher. I suspect that will not be very "grinding" on a commoner.

I do not expect deity missions from a sandbox like PfO for a long time. THere was discussion of possibility of that type of thing in Gobbocast 18, but that sounds a long way of, possibly long past OE.

[celestialiar]

I think one of the issues with sandbox pve (although I am not a huge sandbox gamer, but I've seen various games unfold) is that... it's kind of the opposite of theme park.

The system, supposedly, isn't set up for dynamic quests in the theme park, so they do gathers. It becomes a crutch.

In the same way, although the system could be established in a sandbox, most people will say "That's against the sandbox." This benefits the devs, too, because they don't have to bother with certain things.

However, I still dream of the day a true questing/story/npc interaction system is established inside of the foundation of a sandbox. I think people are afraid that it would be taking their freedom, but... once they see it, they will be like ahhh!

That may be far away, but I am always going to be vocal about that path. The world needs to be a powerful force, too. The world, being... non player entities.

[Bringslite of Fidelis]

@ celestialiar

Have you read up on escalations? Most of what you wrote is in or has the possibility to be.

[Being]

Recommend listening to or viewing the Gobbocast #18 with Rob Settles the GW PvE designer.

[Hardin Steele]

Seems a little early to be criticizing the PvE portion of a game that isn't even out of Alpha yet...

[celestialiar]

Bringslite of Fidelis wrote:

@ celestialiar

Have you read up on escalations? Most of what you wrote is in or has the possibility to be.

Goodu. I'll have more comments after I get some ee under my belt.