| Firewarrior44 |
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The Cloud Giant ability Oversized Weapon (Ex) States : " A cloud giant can wield Gargantuan weapons without penalty. Most favor the use of immense morningstars."
Does this mean that a Cloud giant can wield a gargantuan two-handed weapon such as a gargantuan Greatsword even though it's size category exceeds a size of weapon that a creature of the Cloud Giant's size (gargantuan) can normally wield?
Or does Oversized Weapon (Ex) simply remove the penalties from weapons which a Cloud Giant could normally wield i.e. gargantuan Long sword?
Is it the same case for a Tiefling with oversized limbs?
Oversized Limbs : "You have over-sized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty"
| Kazaan |
If it states "without penalty", that includes both the penalty to attack rolls and the "penalty" of size step-up (light is treated as 1-h, 1-h as 2-h, 2-h as unwieldable). Redcap sets the precedent so any ability that mirrors the verbiage used also mirrors the mechanical results. This includes Tieflings with Oversized Limbs, Ogrekin, Half-Giants, etc. By contrast, the Titan Mauler's Massive Weapons ability singles out "penalty to attack rolls" which means it has no effect on the effective effort to wield but only reduces the -2 attack roll penalty per size category difference. However, Oversized Weapons only affect Gargantuan weapons so you cannot have a Huge Cloud Giant wield a Huge Greatsword as an Undersized weapon in one hand because it is a Huge Greatsword rather than a Gargantuan Greatsword. So he can wield a Huge Greatsword as a 2-h weapon and also a Gargantuan Greatsword as a 2-h weapon, but a Colossal Dagger still counts as 2 sizes too big and is treated as a 2-h weapon with -4 to attack and he cannot wield Colossal 1-h or 2-h weapons at all.