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DO you get two famaliars?
Do the levels double stack-2?
Or would you need ot settle for a bonded item and a snake?
You can not have more than 1 combat companion.
But I am interested hwo this would work out.
If the choices available stack, you may have the levels stack.
Edit: this is the same class. Uhm....I'd say you'd have to settle for an arcane bond and a companion.
Now, this is for PFS.
In a home game, I would definitely let you have two snake familiars, with all the benefits that entails.
If you get a familiar from more than one source, you do not get two. Ever. That's RAW. Also you cannot have an Arcane Bond and a Familiar either. That's also RAW (at least as I understand it, I could be wrong and would in fact love to see evidence that I am). If they are from different sources, then your levels in that class stack to a maximum of your character level.
BUT, in your case it's the same source. You are a sorcerer. So, you must have a viper familiar. From Arcane it's full level, from serpentine it's your level -2 BUT you are still capped by your overall character level which means that all the Serpentine power does is give you the ability to speak with reptiles at will and tie you to a viper familiar. You'd have to talk with your GM about whether you would be allowed to take an Improved Familiar, although I'd say you can take a planar viper, but I wouldn't let you take like a pseudodragon or anything, you need to have the viper IMO.
Companions are something else entirely.
If you get a familiar from more than one source, you do not get two. Ever. That's RAW. Also you cannot have an Arcane Bond and a Familiar either. That's also RAW (at least as I understand it, I could be wrong and would in fact love to see evidence that I am). If they are from different sources, then your levels in that class stack to a maximum of your character level.
BUT, in your case it's the same source. You are a sorcerer. So, you must have a viper familiar. From Arcane it's full level, from serpentine it's your level -2 BUT you are still capped by your overall character level which means that all the Serpentine power does is give you the ability to speak with reptiles at will and tie you to a viper familiar. You'd have to talk with your GM about whether you would be allowed to take an Improved Familiar, although I'd say you can take a planar viper, but I wouldn't let you take like a pseudodragon or anything, you need to have the viper IMO.
Companions are something else entirely.
I have never seen any raw about what you are talking about. Can you please quote rules for anythign you are talkign about.
I know there is an archetype that specifically says you can not have both.
But I am not aware of any general rule saying you can not. I know many PFS players that have both so I think you are wrong.
wizards form a powerful bond with an object or a creature. This bond can take one of two forms: a familiar or a bonded object. A familiar is a magical pet that enhances the wizard's skills and senses and can aid him in magic, while a bonded object is an item a wizard can use to cast additional spells or to serve as a magical item. Once a wizard makes this choice, it is permanent and cannot be changed.
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.
Every single time I know of where you are granted a familiar it says it works as the arcane bond feature for wizards. Which means you can only get one, because you can't have the same class feature twice unless it's leveled which means you get the higher version (like Evasion and Improved Evasion, if you get Evasion but already have Evasion from another class, then you get Improved Evasion).
Now, I did note that the Serpentine bloodline says nothing about arcane bond... nor does it say "as a wizard" it says "effective wizard level", which may mean that the Serpentine sorcerer is the single exception? It's the first time I've ever seen where the familiar is not tied to the arcane bond class feature.
If you know many PFS players that have both, then apparently its allowed in PFS, at which point I'd say you really should be talking to a PFS GM or VC about this, and and fact might even hit FAQ on your initial post to see if we can get the developers to chime in, since as I said, the Serpentine bloodline's wording is different than every other familiar granting ability so now even I'm confused.
Now, if you are saying that in PFS I can be a witch with a familiar then multiclass into sorcerer with the arcane bloodline and pick up a bonded object, then that's news to me that is allowed in PFS, because as I've always understood the rules, that's not RAW or RAI.
EDIT: Also,
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(Su): At 1st level, you gain an arcane bond, as a wizard equal to your sorcerer level. Your sorcerer levels stack with any wizard levels you possess when determining the powers of your familiar or bonded object. Once per day, your bonded item allows you to cast any one of your spells known (unlike a wizard’s bonded item, which allows him to cast any one spell in his spellbook). This ability does not allow you to have both a familiar and a bonded item.
Which, by the line I bolded, pretty much says right there in an ability you actually have that you cannot have both a bonded item and a familiar. But again, if they are allowing it in PFS, then I don't know what to tell you, especially with this not being the PFS forums.
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Every single time I know of where you are granted a familiar it says it works as the arcane bond feature for wizards. Which means you can only get one, because you can't have the same class feature twice unless it's leveled which means you get the higher version (like Evasion and Improved Evasion, if you get Evasion but already have Evasion from another class, then you get Improved Evasion).wizards form a powerful bond with an object or a creature. This bond can take one of two forms: a familiar or a bonded object. A familiar is a magical pet that enhances the wizard's skills and senses and can aid him in magic, while a bonded object is an item a wizard can use to cast additional spells or to serve as a magical item. Once a wizard makes this choice, it is permanent and cannot be changed.
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.
A Rogue2/Monk2 actually does not have Improved Evasion, because Evasion does not state that you get Improved Evasion if you get Evasion twice. So it would have Evasion twice.
PFS is RAW.
I see the arcane bloodline does not allow you to have both. SO that would remove having both.
Now you can have leveled abilities surpassing your level. SO why not famaliar? An elven oracle can have a revelation higher level them them. a human with huntsman can have an companion higher than them, you can cast spells at a higher caster level then your level. Now a famaliar that is higher level is not nearly as impressive at the previous ones.
A Rogue2/Monk2 actually does not have Improved Evasion, because Evasion does not state that you get Improved Evasion if you get Evasion twice. So it would have Evasion twice.Every single time I know of where you are granted a familiar it says it works as the arcane bond feature for wizards. Which means you can only get one, because you can't have the same class feature twice unless it's leveled which means you get the higher version (like Evasion and Improved Evasion, if you get Evasion but already have Evasion from another class, then you get Improved Evasion).wizards form a powerful bond with an object or a creature. This bond can take one of two forms: a familiar or a bonded object. A familiar is a magical pet that enhances the wizard's skills and senses and can aid him in magic, while a bonded object is an item a wizard can use to cast additional spells or to serve as a magical item. Once a wizard makes this choice, it is permanent and cannot be changed.
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.
Ah, sorry you are correct that Evasion does not stack, I was thinking of Uncanny Dodge. Evasion was the same way in 3.5, but not in Pathfinder anymore (except certain prestige classes that specifically call it out as upgrading). But, you then wouldn't have Evasion twice because you still can't have it twice, so then Evasion is the same as Arcane Bond. You can't have it twice.
PFS is RAW.
No, PFS is not RAW. The GMs in charge of PFS can and do make changes to the RAW like any GM is allowed. Perfect example of where PFS deviates from RAW is that the developers have explicitly said that half-elves, half-orcs, aasimar with scion of humanity, those who take the Racial Heritage feat, etc CAN take exclusive options for other races, including favored class bonuses. So, my Aasimar with Scion of Humanity CAN take the human favored class options if she likes those better than the aasimar ones, and in fact I have a 100% legal by the RAW Aasimar (Scion) with the human only Buccanner gunslinger archetype. BUT PFS has said that favored class options and racial archetypes are specifically only for that race, not for half-races. Which means, my Aasimar, despite being legal by the RAW, is not legal by PFS
As for having a higher caster level, that doesn't mean you get higher level abilities. You could be a 10th level sorcerer that managed to take traits and abilities that give you +10 caster level, which all that does is make the spells you have more effective it does not give you more spell slots or higher level spells.
Every single ability that I've ever seen that raises your familiar's effective level is still capped by your character level. Same with companions. They may not be capped by your class level, but they are still capped by character level.
You make up too much stuff to have an honest debate with.