Detecting Undetectable Undead


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I was looking over the Penanggalen after a scenario, and I noticed that it does not detect as undead, but that it is still undead. This did not come up in the scenario, but I was curious for effects like Deathwatch and the life oracles life sense abiltiy how does the Penanggalen show up?
I was thinking that for death watch it would not count as alive or dead, and that the Penanggalen would simply be invisible to life sense.

The other option seems to be that it simply appears and detects in all ways as alive, or at least against detection spells, which would mean lifesense would still pick up that something was off.

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1. The creature does not detect as undead ONLY during the day.

2. Even during the day, if the creature is detached from its body, it may not detect as undead, but it can still be identified as undead using K/Religion (it's a flying head with entrails!).

3. My guess is that during the day, the creature detects as a normal living creature, and deathwatch and similar abilities would work on it as if it were a living creature. The whole idea seems to be that it can pass itself off as a normal living creature during the day. At night it detects as undead and deathwatch and similar abilities would work accordingly.

Personally, I think the ability is badly designed. I'd have made it detect as if living while attached to its body, and detect as undead when it detaches. That seems more logical to me, but that's not the way its written.

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