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Not sure which forum to put this in but is it a misprint that it is NOT a cleric spell?

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It is not a Cleric spell.


do we know why?


Flavor limitation. The archetypal cleric abilities are STR, CON, WIS and CHA. Also note there is no Fox's Cunning. Also note the Bard's stat buff spells are restricted, too.


FireberdGNOME wrote:
Flavor limitation. The archetypal cleric abilities are STR, CON, WIS and CHA. Also note there is no Fox's Cunning. Also note the Bard's stat buff spells are restricted, too.

Ninja'd before I even wrote my answer...

When 3rd ed came out, along with these buff spells, no class got the whole set. They spread them out so you couldn't have all 6 stats buffed by one spellcaster. Why? Perhaps the designers thought it would be unbalancing if clerics could get a higher dex...


It is definitely not a misprint. As to why cleric's don't get it: I have no idea.
@Gilarius: As far as I remember the stat buffing line of spells had a 1 hour/lvl duration untill 3.5, which meant that access to them was very important and powerful.


Lifat wrote:

It is definitely not a misprint. As to why cleric's don't get it: I have no idea.

@Gilarius: As far as I remember the stat buffing line of spells had a 1 hour/lvl duration untill 3.5, which meant that access to them was very important and powerful.

Yes, I was being ironic. Given how over-powered Clerics were in 3rd ed, that couldn't have been the reason.

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Is there now a class that gets the whole set?


Wizard/ sorcerer has always had the whole set.

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Java Man wrote:
Wizard/ sorcerer has always had the whole set.

Really?

How did I miss that?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Java Man wrote:
Wizard/ sorcerer has always had the whole set.

Really?

How did I miss that?

That'll be sarcasm, not irony...

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Gilarius wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Java Man wrote:
Wizard/ sorcerer has always had the whole set.

Really?

How did I miss that?

That'll be sarcasm, not irony...

Easily missed in text communications.

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In 3.5 the only way a cleric could get it, was if he had the Elf Domain

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