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Energy Drain (Su) A succubus drains energy from a mortal she lures into an act of passion, such as a kiss. An unwilling victim must be grappled before the succubus can use this
ability. The succubus’s kiss bestows one negative level.
The kiss also has the effect of a suggestion spell, asking the victim to accept another act of passion from the succubus. The victim must succeed on a DC 22 Will save to negate the suggestion. The DC is 22 for the Fortitude save to remove a negative level. These save DCs are Charisma-based.
Energy Drain (Su) This attack saps a living opponent’s vital energy and happens automatically when a melee or
ranged attack hits. Each successful energy drain bestows one or more negative levels (the creature’s description specifies how many). If an attack that includes an energy drain scores a critical hit, it bestows twice the listed number of negative levels. Unless otherwise specif ied
in the creature’s description, a draining creature gains 5 temporary hit points for each negative level it bestows on an opponent. These temporary hit points last for a maximum of 1 hour. Negative levels remain until 24 hours have passed or until they are removed with a spell, such as restoration. If a negative level is not removed before 24 hours have passed, the affected creature must attempt a Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 draining creature’s racial HD + draining creature’s Cha modifier; the exact DC is given in the creature’s descriptive text). On a success, the negative level goes away with no harm to
the creature. On a failure, the negative level becomes permanent. A separate saving throw is required for each negative level.
Format: energy drain (2 levels, DC 18); Location: Special Attacks and individual attacks.
What kind of action is a Succcubus's Energy Drain Ability?
1. is it considered one of the actions that can take place during a grapple? such as move, pin, tie up, damage
if it is, these types of actions only occur the next round after a grapple is initiated and maintained
2. is it considered a standard action all by itself (as is typical with an undeclared Supernatural attack)?
but then, how would the succubus ever be able to successfully initiate this ability if grappling and maintaining a grapple is a standard action in and of itself?
3. is it a special attack, similar to rake, but unlike rake requires no attack roll, and is automatically applied when specialized conditions are met (the grapple)?
4. or is it a free action that the succubus can only take once she uses a standard action to grapple her target?
which if she is already grappling, she energy drains freely, then can take a full round action
5. or is it a variant of a grapple maneuver?
would swift grapple or the master maneuver variant - both allow multiple grapple maneuver checks in a round - allow the succubus to make multiple energy drain attacks?
I would assume it is applied maintaining the grapple.
It is a rider affect that takes place upon completion of another action, just like poison is applied upon a successful attack.
If they are both standard actions the succubus loses the grapple after using energy drain. I do agree that by RAW they have to choose to maintain the grapple or kiss the victim, but I think the idea is for the grapple to represent the "embrace" as you are being kissed.
PS: A grapple is an attack.
PS2: Maintaining the grapple applies the next energy drain by the way I run it.
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If they are both standard actions the succubus loses the grapple after using energy drain. I do agree that by RAW they have to choose to maintain the grapple or kiss the victim, but I think the idea is for the grapple to represent the "embrace" as you are being kissed.
PS: A grapple is an attack.
PS2: Maintaining the grapple applies the next energy drain by the way I run it.
Some additional questions to your perspective:
1. If she is grappled by another creature, do they automatically get drained a level if they successfully grapple her?
A. Or does the energy drain only happen on her turn?
2. If she starts the round grappled by another creature, is it a free action to drain a level?
A. Or does she have to spend a standard action to automatically energy drain?
3. Under the grapple rules for multiple opponents, there is only one roll required to maintain a hold on all. Does she energy drain every opponent in that grapple?
4. Can she energy drain an opponent that is already grappled by another creature? As her description just states the victim needs to be grappled.
1. Only on her turn, and I read it as she has to be controlling the grapple, but some GM's run it as even if she is the defender in the grapple she can try to use it.
2. If the GM allows her to use it as the defender then I would say a standard action.
3. It is highly unlike that she can do this. Her combat prowess is not that good, but to answer I would think so. I say yes because if it was constrict damage it would also apply to everyone grappled.
4. If she is grappling them also then yes, but if she is not grappling them, then no. The rules assume she is the one grappling.
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1. Only on her turn, and I read it as she has to be controlling the grapple, but some GM's run it as even if she is the defender in the grapple she can try to use it.
2. If the GM allows her to use it as the defender then I would say a standard action.
3. It is highly unlike that she can do this. Her combat prowess is not that good, but to answer I would think so. I say yes because if it was constrict damage it would also apply to everyone grappled.
4. If she is grappling them also then yes, but if she is not grappling them, then no. The rules assume she is the one grappling.
It sounds like you are interpreting her energy drain from a RAI perspective. Saying that she would only get to energy drain if she controls the grapple.
Yet, you also state that her combat prowress is lacking to the point that you don't think she would ever win.Can you help me understand how RAI would dictate her utilizing a power based on stats that she doesn't really have the ability to succeed?