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I was discussing with some fellow PFS players, including 2 PFS GMs, about picking up a Holy Avenger for my Paladin. However, my paladin uses polearms and we were talking about what I could do and someone mentioned that they thought I could have a Holy Avenger as a polearm, just swap out the price of a longsword with the price of the chosen polearm in the cost equation. The two GMs thought about it for a second and said they didn't see anything wrong with it, but they weren't certain and didn't want to give me a yes or no.
So hey! I am fairly certain this is a no go, but what the hey, I would find out. Once I get to a high enough prestige, can I purchase a polearm version of the Holy Avenger?
Page 170 of Ultimate Campaign has stuff on that. You just change the non-magical masterwork price of the item to the new item. I don't know how well it will work in PFS though.
Isent a Holy Avenger a bit pricy for PFS?
Edit: my Phone wanted it to be a Aply Avenuer
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Magic armor and weapons may be upgraded to named versions if they are the same basic material and shape as, and meet but do not exceed the enhancement bonuses of the named versions.
Yeah, that was my thought too. But like I said, I wanted to ask. See if maybe I missed something.
Well, alas. Maybe I will just pick up some other fancy enchantments on it when I am higher prestige and just pretend it is a holy avenger. XD
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Kujow, If you want a holy avenger spear buy a holy avenger and add the transformative enchantment it costs a flat 10,000gp so you can add it to a named item, one of the few enchantments you can add to a named item as only flat priced enchantments can be add by the PFS rules. hope you have enough prestige to buy a pricy item like a Holy Avenger.
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That would be a custom magic item, and custom magic items are prohibited in pfs play.
Zefig is correct. Custom magic items—beyond those found on a Chronicle sheet—are prohibited in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. The customization rules serve really nicely as guidelines, but there are enough exploits lurking out there whose final prices wouldn't pass most GMs' sniff test. Rather than approving items on an individual basis, item customization in general is prohibited.
That said, I'm always happy to add to a list I keep of cool custom items to consider for future scenarios. When I put such an item on a Chronicle sheet, it's already been vetted to ensure it has the right price and won't have a negative impact on the campaign for the price tag.
Is a holy avenger polearm going to have a negative impact on the campaign? Dear me, no—especially if your character can actually afford it (somewhere around level 14–15, I'd imagine). However, it's still customization. So too is the above recommendation of adding the transformative property to a holy avenger. Neither is legal.
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That said, I'm always happy to add to a list I keep of cool custom items to consider for future scenarios. When I put such an item on a Chronicle sheet, it's already been vetted to ensure it has the right price and won't have a negative impact on the campaign for the price tag.
Why is the "ultimate" weapon (Holy Avenger) of a Paladin of Sarenrae or Torag a long sword?
Please consider, through a chronicle sheet or additional resource, providing Paladins with the ability to have a Holy Avenger that matches their deity's favored weapon. Maybe a slightly pricier version that automatically adapts based on wielder's deity would justify a new item entry?
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That said, I'm always happy to add to a list I keep of cool custom items to consider for future scenarios. When I put such an item on a Chronicle sheet, it's already been vetted to ensure it has the right price and won't have a negative impact on the campaign for the price tag.Why is the "ultimate" weapon (Holy Avenger) of a Paladin of Sarenrae or Torag a long sword?
Because the holy avenger is one of those legacy items that have been in the system for about as long as anyone cares to remember. It precedes favored weapons and the like and indeed comes from a time when longswords were the weapon of choice for melee combatants.
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Or just let devs consider being able to buy strict enchantments instead of the exact weapon with the enchantment. I know I am sick of swords, swords, swords, and I believe many in the society are too. People have their right mind taking some new weapon for sake of roleplay or character flavor and are discouraged just because a "Holy avenging sabre" is so much different and imbalanced than a "Holy avenging rapier". Why not just be able to take the template for a melee weapon and make a melee waepon (or one striking surface in case of double weapons) a weapon with that enchant. This wat maybe we could even see a ranseur, flail or trident wielded by an occasional adventurer. If not we're stuck with all manner of magical blades, an occasional greataxe, and a handfull of weapons noone will ever use because reasons.
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That said, I'm always happy to add to a list I keep of cool custom items to consider for future scenarios. When I put such an item on a Chronicle sheet, it's already been vetted to ensure it has the right price and won't have a negative impact on the campaign for the price tag.Why is the "ultimate" weapon (Holy Avenger) of a Paladin of Sarenrae or Torag a long sword?
Please consider, through a chronicle sheet or additional resource, providing Paladins with the ability to have a Holy Avenger that matches their deity's favored weapon. Maybe a slightly pricier version that automatically adapts based on wielder's deity would justify a new item entry?
Keep in the back of your head that even a Paladin of Iomedae is almost certainly NEVER going to be wielding a Holy Avenger in PFS. With a price of 120,630, it is completely unavailable until you reach 67 fame. 67 fame is impossible until you finish your first scenario/module AFTER reaching level 12 (and highly unlikely even then - that assumes you played nothing but 1xp scenarios and got two fame in all of them). Not to mention the 120,630 gp it's going to cost you.
Also, unless you are still walking around at 15th level in the gear you bought at 1st level, you're going to be faced with a choice: "I spent all this money on a +3 Holy Demon-Bane adamantine longsword. Is a Holy Avenger really worth it?"
The only situations I've ever heard of a Holy Avenger being used in any situation (not just PFS) are
1) Group starts at a really high level (13+) and has no item availability restrictions.
2) GM Fiat: Either found as loot or gifted to a paladin directly from a deity. If it's a gift it certainly could be any shape the deity chooses, but that's not helpful in PFS.