So it says that 8th level, the monk is treated as having the ITWF and at 13th, being treated as having the GTWF, both specifically for FoB. Does this mean that if I split class and take the actual feats that I can still add the GTWF feat to FoB?
It's not as if he has the feat, but as if he is USING the feat.
You're asking if you can get more attacks if you get the actual feats as well? You would just get the same exact effect I believe, so no extra attacks beyond what you're entitled to.
I meant if I multiclassed, like with a fighter10/monk10.
The feat will always be the same feat, regardless of how you acquired it (through another class). So, the monk has that written in to help illustrate how the ability is used, and doesn't mean it meets any pre-req's, or stacks with anything similar.
So, what I believe you're asking is, you have fighter with ITWF, and monk with a ITWF, can you get two off-hand attacks per first and second iterative attacks? The answer I believe is no, unless someone has a very interesting argument to make. The only point I see for taking ITWF feats, are to make your attacks outside the restrictions of a flurry, or to meet a pre-req for another feat.
No, you missed it. I'm asking that if you split class a monk and don' get to 13th level, thus not having FoB treated as giving it GTWF, that if you take GTWF, you can apply it to FoB.
The answer is no.
They are completely unrelated. They are also partitioned.
The feats are similar to FoB, but not identically designed. The Monk can make all of those attacks with a single weapon, the TWFer cannot. This has been an issue of contention for a long time but it's not going to play out.
There are huge downsides as well, the penalties stack and the Flurry of Misses crops up.
This is why it's not actually tried very often. Add to that the very restrictive weapon list for FoB.
The only advantage to taking both is access to the entire TWF feat tree, which does have some nice things. The Monk doesn't get them without the largest Feat Tax in the game.
The reason for that is FoB is superior in several ways.
*A single weapon may be used for the entire routine.
*The monks BAB actually goes up with FoB, instead of Down.
*The Monk's other abilities actually make flurry even better. (Though this would be true with all of the TWF feats too).
The single weapon Flurry is not really liked by the developers. But they HATE the stacked TWF tree and FoB.
This Blog post is absolutely necessary for any Monk player.
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5le61?Monkeying-Around
