| Quantum Steve |
The line is relevant, since it is the direction of travel.
"A cone-shaped spell shoots away from you in a quarter-circle in the direction you designate. It starts from any corner of your square and widens out as it goes."
So it "shoots away from you" "in the direction you designate."
The direction it is traveling in is away from you. That is all that is required.
"A cone-shaped spell shoots away from you..." You just quoted the, and not two lines later got it wrong.
It is the cone that must shoot away from you, not merely the line of travel. The entire cone.| Samasboy1 |
The cone shape shoots away from you in a direction
The direction is away from you.
Take a look at the example 30' cone.
It looks like this:
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No matter which corner it is emanating from, the effect has to spread toward the caster to match that shape.
The line of travel however doesn't move toward the caster, it moves toward X. It moves away from the caster.
The cone must move in a direction away from the caster, it does not have to spread away from him too.
| Quantum Steve |
The cone shape shoots away from you in a direction
The direction is away from you.
Take a look at the example 30' cone.
It looks like this:
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00000000No matter which corner it is emanating from, the effect has to spread toward the caster to match that shape.
The line of travel however doesn't move toward the caster, it moves toward X. It moves away from the caster.
The cone must move in a direction away from the caster, it does not have to spread away from him too.
You got that one right. Well done.
That cone originates north of the caster and shoots north, spreading out as it goes.
I'm sorry, are people actually arguing that a cone which ends further away from you than it starts isn't moving away from you?
If you coned yourself in the face, the cone would end further from you than it started. That's not an appropriate test.
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Ipslore the Red wrote:Luckily, PF rules do not allow you to cone yourself in the face, so your example is not relevant and it remains appropriate.THIS GUY would disagree with you, on that point.
Wow, how long have you been sitting on that picture waiting for the perfect time to post it in the threads?
Snorter
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Wow, how long have you been sitting on that picture waiting for the perfect time to post it in the threads?
Yes, this entire thread was my Machiavellian plan.
Bwahahahahaha!
(Actually, I typed 'ice cream cone face', hoping for a pic of a kid who'd stuck one in their eye, but that guy has taken all the top search results.)
| Samasboy1 |
Samasboy1 wrote:
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That cone originates north of the caster and shoots north, spreading out as it goes.
But wasn't that your argument for why the other cone wouldn't work? Because it spread toward the caster, even though its direction of travel was away from him?
In the 30' cone, it should originate from the caster's "NE" corner, and spreads west (and east), while traveling north.
So, based on your previous comments, I don't see how you accept this one, but not the previous one.
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The argument that the cone arrangement above gets closer to the caster is false. Sqaure A is the first square and is one square away from the caster, and closest to the origin corner. Square B is one and a half squares from the caster (1st diagonal), and therefore farther from the caster than square A, etc. Note that even if you argue that the first diagonal is ONE square and not one and a half, square B STILL isn't CLOSER to the caster than square A.