Nightmare Spell...


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Scarab Sages

Soooo... my GM hits me with the Nightmare Spell through an unsettling set of circumstances and he says the save is a Will at -10. This nerfed my Wizard exclusively in last night's session. Perturbed I realized that he was wrong after looking up the spell once I got home. I will step back a moment to describe what happened. The GM is running The Shattered Star AP and the group is all over the board with it. Really no structure to the campaign despite the GM owning the books, so a lot of sandbox play. We HAD three shards of the sihedron but that changed when a certain powerful creature, who had polymorphed into a woman, cornered my character and took a shard through deception. Here's the problem: we're level 12 with the Scylla on our ship in the form of a woman, my character knew something was up and went to speak with her because after casting Detect Magic she had potent magic which registered 'non-discernable' after at least two rounds of concentration. After entering the chamber she closes the door telekinetically behind me and through the subtle force of 'you won't get out of this room alive without a kiss' I acquiesced and kissed her. I was immediately teleported to Windsong Abbey, stripped of the Shard of Gluttony, and instantly teleported back to the ship with the woman nowhere in sight. I also lost all memory of what happened. The group of course is distressed that we have to chase down the shard again. But also with her kiss comes the Nightmare spell. So many rules broken it seems and I'm not quite sure what to do. My character is fun to play but we have to track down the Scylla, destroy it, and get the shard back for the spell to break. I am within two steps of just creating a new character so I can play in the game because a Wizard is just an NPC if he or she can't prepare and cast spells. The Scylla is beyond our group's capacity to combat. The purpose of my question is to give validity that his nerf gun is OP and retraction of the NIghtmare spell could be in order, unless of course he wants me to create a new character which is lame. Questions, comments, ideas welcome. Thanks!


So, what's the rules question?

Scarab Sages

I suppose the question would be: because she met me only once the rules state it would be -4 to the save, is this the correct ruling? The GM never said about taking a strand of my hair or a body part despite his seemingly absurd ruling that she Mind Blanked me (which would be another spell on top of all the other spells she cast just to make this go off without a hitch in the same round). Perhaps there is no actual rules question but rather a game ethics question, when does the GM cross the line with omnipotence at the table? Thanks blahpers.


Uh, wait, what?

What is "mind blanked me" supposed to mean? I cast mind blank on my party members all the time. It prevents them from being scried. It does not do anything at all that could result in you losing memories, ever. In fact, it's an extremely good defense against detections. (And for reference, so far as I know, if she'd had mind blank up, you wouldn't have detected the magic at all, because completely immune to divination type effects.)

Nightmare is actually a stupidly easy spell to counter if you know it's being cast. Prep a dispel evil. Stay up later than you usually would, then go to sleep. Have someone with a detect magic up watch for the spell taking effect, then cast dispel evil. Which would stun her for ten minutes per caster level. Stunned = can't take any actions. If you have a cleric in your party of 12th level characters, that's a two hour window for you to go slaughter her while she's completely incapable of taking actions.

Scarab Sages

Thanks seebs. Moved the post over to General Discussion under the title "Omnipotent GM's..." if you want to check it out feel free.

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