Flanking Foil


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


A single feat that entirely shuts down a class?

Wow.


Most of the people on this board either love the feat or figure "rogue sucks, so no one will ever take a feat to shut them down because they're not a threat, ergo the feat is balanced."

It's pretty sickening though, yeah.


Relevant text. Sucks for rogues.

Flanking Foil (Combat) wrote:
Benefit: Whenever you hit an adjacent opponent with a melee attack, until the start of your next turn, that opponent does not gain any flanking bonus on attack rolls while it is flanking you and cannot deal sneak attack damage to you. It can still provide a flank for its allies.


Seriously, though. All discussing the feat on this forum will do is destroy your faith in humanity.


swoosh wrote:

A single feat that entirely shuts down a class?

Wow.

If your rogue depends on flanking to be an effective character, you are going to have a bad time.


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Marthkus wrote:
swoosh wrote:

A single feat that entirely shuts down a class?

Wow.

If your rogue depends on flanking to be an effective character, you are going to have a bad time.

As worded a rogue hit by you doesn't deal sneak attack, if I'm reading it right anyway. I would think that's how it works, otherwise its kind of redundant, but the reading is somewhat awkward because it doesn't say something like "benefit from sneak attack" and instead names two specific things. It also prevents them from getting a flanking bonus or dealing sneak attack to anyone else while it is flanking you.


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Correct, this shuts down sneak attack entirely not just sneak-attack-due-to-flank, if the foiler lands a blow,. Hopefully you're playing your rogue in such a way as to not provide an opportunity for a melee opponent to get a word in edgewise.

Pretty nasty, though. I'd have thought it would be a specific maneuver or standard action.

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