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I was pondering and unable to find an answer I'm turning to the community; is it possible to create a character that can get to strength 100?


What are the parameters? What books are allowed? What races?

Dark Archive

anything is allowed as long as its published though keeping it as core friendly as possible would help

(also I know about pun-puns and I rather find a different way to do it)

Liberty's Edge

It would be the sum of your racial base, then adding all the different bonuses that effect strength, since they do not stack with one another. From the PRD, I see Alchemical, enhancement, inherent, morale, and size. Without custom spells, items, races or spells, I do note see it ever hitting 100 with just those five types.

Grand Lodge

I think in general the highest I saw someone go was the 50's but I don't own over half of the books and materials.

Even assuming you could create a char with a strength that hits 100 what exactly would the rest of the character look like?


Assuming we dont just create a custom raced with a +80 strength with the race builder the best i can do from paizo material is 63

Level 20 Orc Abysal Bloodline Blood Rager
Starting Strength 18
Orc 4
5 Level based increases 5
plus 6 belt 6
plus 5 manual 5
Mighty Blood Rage 8
Abysal Blood Rage 6
Demonic Bulk (enlarged) 2
Form of the Dragon III 10

Using the 3rd party product from rogue genius games the Martial Archetype Physical Exemplar could net you another +5

Cant think of anything else without gestalting the character. In which case 12 levels of ragechemist alchemist for a +8 and 4 levels of dragon disciple for a +4.

That would park you all told at 81.

The Exchange

I probably could with a high enough point buy (400+ish?). Otherwise there just isn't enough different bonuses that go high enough to allow it.


Kolokotroni wrote:

Assuming we dont just create a custom raced with a +80 strength with the race builder the best i can do from paizo material is 63

Level 20 Orc Abysal Bloodline Blood Rager
Starting Strength 18
Orc 4
5 Level based increases 5
plus 6 belt 6
plus 5 manual 5
Mighty Blood Rage 8
Abysal Blood Rage 6
Demonic Bulk (enlarged) 2
Form of the Dragon III 10

Using the 3rd party product from rogue genius games the Martial Archetype Physical Exemplar could net you another +5

Cant think of anything else without gestalting the character. In which case 12 levels of ragechemist alchemist for a +8 and 4 levels of dragon disciple for a +4.

That would park you all told at 81.

Mythic would get you another +5, no?


Buri wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:

Assuming we dont just create a custom raced with a +80 strength with the race builder the best i can do from paizo material is 63

Level 20 Orc Abysal Bloodline Blood Rager
Starting Strength 18
Orc 4
5 Level based increases 5
plus 6 belt 6
plus 5 manual 5
Mighty Blood Rage 8
Abysal Blood Rage 6
Demonic Bulk (enlarged) 2
Form of the Dragon III 10

Using the 3rd party product from rogue genius games the Martial Archetype Physical Exemplar could net you another +5

Cant think of anything else without gestalting the character. In which case 12 levels of ragechemist alchemist for a +8 and 4 levels of dragon disciple for a +4.

That would park you all told at 81.

Mythic would get you another +5, no?

Forgot about mythic, not something I normally use or consider


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Highest I can come up with is an orc alchemist/barbarian.

18 base
+4 race (orc)
+4 morale (rage)
+10 alchemic (grand mutagen; rage mutagen)
+10 size (augmented mythic beast shape IV extract)
+6 enhancement (belt of giant strength)
+5 leveling (4th, 8th, 12th, 16th, and 20th)
+10 mythic tiers (2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, and 10th)
+2 untyped (enhanced ability; universal mythic)
+5 inherent (wish or manual)

= 74 (78 if using the Tarnhelm [artifact] to assume the form of a gargantuan dragon; this replaces the size bonus listed above).

If using templates, you could get another +6 from becoming a vampire, taking the total to 80 (84)... still short of 100, though.


Kolokotroni wrote:
Forgot about mythic, not something I normally use or consider

Then kind of stealing from Detect Magic, gestalt some alchemist. I wonder how that'd turn out.


The build above only requires 1 level of barbarian. (I didn't mean to imply gestalt, I just didn't feel it was needed to post specific levels; I was thinking something like alchemist 16/barbarian 4.)


Player: I grapple the kobold with my +45 strength and +20 bab so that's +65 I'm good right?

DM: Go ahead and roll

*Nat 1*

DM: He laughs at you when your steroid t-rex arms can't reach him

Player: ...


Add +2 profane bonus for having a pact with friendly succubus/right demonic obedience.


Drejk wrote:
Add +2 profane bonus for having a pact with friendly succubus/right demonic obedience.

Why just a normal succubus? a 20/10 character should be able to get friendly with the Lady in Shadow herself, for a +6 profane bonus to Strength and +4 to another score.


MattR1986 wrote:

Player: I grapple the kobold with my +45 strength and +20 bab so that's +65 I'm good right?

DM: Go ahead and roll

*Nat 1*

DM: He laughs at you when your steroid t-rex arms can't reach him

Player: ...

Pathfinder PRD Mythic (Champion) wrote:
Always a Chance (Ex): You don't automatically miss when you roll a 1 on an attack roll.

Auto-hit/gib everything.


This should be pretty easy if you start with Marionette Possession/Magic Jar.


Why not throw in Half-Fiend or whatever as well?

Lantern Lodge

This thread has some ideas...


I'd feel if you have a str of over 40 you would have to make strength checks not to break manufactured weapons.
Any resistance and you would snap your weapon in two barring them being made of adamantine or something similar.


Dang it, lost my text.

Anyway a vampiric, half dragon, advanced, giant, Brachiosaurus with a profane gift from a lilitu and 5 wishes has a str of 68.

Spirit jar plus magic jar lets you stay in it forever.

Hat of disguise plus a belt lets you look like yourself and have a str of 60.

That is permanent.

Any polymorph or size bonus will be 2 less but you can gain str from moral. No damage to con or dex so if that is you tacktic it will not work.

I saw abyssal and might blood rage up thread for +14 and demonic bulk takes it to a +16. Another +10 from alchemy (rage mutigen) was also mentioned. That would add 26. In dino form that is 100 str.


fel_horfrost wrote:

I'd feel if you have a str of over 40 you would have to make strength checks not to break manufactured weapons.

Any resistance and you would snap your weapon in two barring them being made of adamantine or something similar.

Once Strength gets that high, a weapon is just a crit range on a stick. You'd wreck house with your bare hands.


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People have mentioned abyssal str bonus + book. They don't stack they are both inherent.

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