I have a cleric I'm thinking about playing with the Persistence inquisition, as the domain spells for his other domains are kinda poor anyway, and that inquisition has some good powers for a dwarf (a speed buff, mostly).
However, it's not clear just which inquisitions I can choose, as they are not listed by deity. Here's the quote from Ultimate Magic:
Inquisitions are intended for inquisitors, not for other classes that give access to domains. While a cleric or other domain-using class can select an inquisition in place of a domain (if appropriate to the character’s deity), inquisitions do not grant domain spell slots or domain spells, and therefore are much weaker choices for those classes.
So what are the guidelines on the bolded section for PFS play? Whose call is "if appropriate to the character's deity"?
If it matters, I'm planning on playing a dwarf cleric of Angradd, the dwarven god of war, with War (Tactics) and Persistence as my two domain choices.
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Because inquisitions are not tied to specific domains or deities, it is legal to take any legal inquisition regardless of deity in PFS.
Make sure to check the Additional Resources for legality or any special rules concerning specific resources.
Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg
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Because inquisitions are not tied to specific domains or deities
Of course they are. It doesn't say so in the PRD, because Golarion deity names are not open content, but take a look into the actual Utlimate Magic, there's even a handy table for the core deities.
I'm sure inquisition lists for minor and racial deities appear in Inner Sea Gods.
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I'm sure inquisition lists for minor and racial deities appear in Inner Sea Gods.
I'm sure inquisition lists for minor and racial deities do not appear in Inner Sea Gods.
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Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg
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I'm sure inquisition lists for minor and racial deities do not appear in Inner Sea Gods.
I'm sure inquisition lists for minor and racial deities appear in Inner Sea Gods.
I guess in that case, you'll have to work with what makes sense for the deity's portfolio.
And just fyi: I don't see why the Persistance Inquisition wouldn't fit the portfolio of a dwarven deity of War ;)
That was the conclusion I reached too, but I'm not sure if unanswered questions are supposed to be inclusive (ie it's up to me/the GM to decide) or exclusive (I'm not allowed to choose any inquisitions because I haven't been given a list of available options).
I did play the character this weekend, and he was a blast.
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Archives of Nethys lists gods with inquisitions in most cases, but I'm not sure where the source for these is. It is probably good guidance, however.
I saw those, but they seem to only list the major gods.
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Here's JJ's take:
That, and inquisitions aren't really "Tied" to deities as much as domains are. They're a subcategory of a subcategory, and are far less restricted (as are inquisitors) by deities than are domains or subdomains.Just curious why the table doesn't include inquisitions for the Deities?There simply wasn't room to include such for the hundreds of deities in the book and keep each entry to a single line, especially considering that inquisitions are a much smaller explored space within the rules. We have dozens of domains and subdomains to divide up among all the gods, but far fewer inquisitions.
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I thought Inquisitions were limited to Inquisitors.Nope, they're usable by any class that gets domains. Since they don't provide domain spells, they're less useful for Clerics than Inquisitors, but they're still options. (And the Fate Inquisition is a handy way of getting early entry into Mystic Theurge.)
The conversion inquisition is also very nice for low charisma combat clerics - it allows diplomacy, intimidate and bluff to use Wisdom instead of Charisma for those skills.
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Archives of Nethys lists gods with inquisitions in most cases, but I'm not sure where the source for these is. It is probably good guidance, however.
The source for those is typically the reference I found them in. I spoke to Sean once and suggested that the Inquisitions be tied to Domains instead, much like Sub-domains. This way whenever a new god/archdevil/crazy demigod spaghetti monster got added, any older inquisitions could be automatically updated to the new deity based on what domains it had. Very backwards compatible. I think by that point though it was too late to change things. As it is, they only got listed with major deities, so it's less than ideal.
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The source for those is typically the reference I found them in. I spoke to Sean once and suggested that the Inquisitions be tied to Domains instead, much like Sub-domains. This way whenever a new god/archdevil/crazy demigod spaghetti monster got added, any older inquisitions could be automatically updated to the new deity based on what domains it had. Very backwards compatible. I think by that point though it was too late to change things. As it is, they only got listed with major deities, so it's less than ideal.
The issue is that that doesn't exist in PF/PFS. The best Domain options are already lumpted together with a few deities, and the intent of Inquisitions was not to tie them to deities, but rather themes. People still assume the sky will fall if players get to choose certain options like Domains, but PF nerfed most so they are generally pretty close in power levels that this really is not a problem any longer. All it really does is remove cool options from players.
To the OP: I would expect table variation on whether or not you will be allowed to use an inquisition for a deity with no inquisitions listed. It might make sense with his portfolio, but unless it's listed explicitly as allowed, a lot of GMs won't allow it.
That was my expectation as well. Since the GM who ran the game for this character was someone I taught PF, I wasn't expecting an issue. Still, I'm aware that until an official source maps inquisitions to the more obscure religious choices, I should expect table variation, and once that happens I may have to fix the PC.
I thought Inquisitions were available by Deities based off of what was in their portfolios like the table here.