machinesmith : your opinions please!

[Zwordsman]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/louis-porter-jr-design/ma chinesmith

Howdy,
So I might get to play in a game that allows more 3pp stuff I've never gotten to use. (the two i've always had interest in are artificer and machinesmith. I've heard a lot about how complicated artificer is)
So I wanted to know peopels thoughts on machinesmith!

[Drejk]

Machinesmith on Paizo shop page has reviews by Endzeitgeist, me, TPK Games and Dalgar The Great.

[Zwordsman]

thanks!

hum this is more related to artifcer but might as well drop it here for now. since a machinesmith could also end up in similar situation.

when you make a magic item (say wand, or magic item) out of a spell that has materials, and the item used changes the effect. Do you just choose the material when you make the item?
i.e. a spell like this http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/pellet-blast

[Zwordsman]

NOt quite sure how to play one yet..

I guess either standard ranged attack, or standard melee style with a few benefits or something...

[Cheapy]

It's a bit on the weak side and there are a number of Paizo classes that are much stronger than it. The automaton is fairly weak due to the lack of feats.

[Mistah J]

If you decide to look elsewhere for such a class - Cheapy has worked hard to put together a huge list of all the various artificer/machinist classes out there.

He may provide a link if asked nicely! :D

also.. shameless plug for MY Tinker alternate class (which is on said list)

[Cheapy]

Cheapy wrote:

It's a bit on the weak side and there are a number of Paizo classes that are much stronger than it. The automaton is fairly weak due to the lack of feats.

That said, it's a pretty good take on the concept. My post was just to say that it probably won't cause balance issues, not to discourage you.

[Cheapy]

Mistah J wrote:

If you decide to look elsewhere for such a class - Cheapy has worked hard to put together a huge list of all the various artificer/machinist classes out there.

He may provide a link if asked nicely! :D

also.. shameless plug for MY Tinker alternate class (which is on said list)

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n7ce?List-of-Artificer-Classes#1

Right here!

[Zwordsman]

haha neat thanks