Liberty's Blessing and Blindness / Deafness


Rules Questions

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Using Liberty's Blessing from the Freedom Subdomain

Liberty's Blessing wrote:
A creature with this boon can, as a swift action, make a saving throw against a single spell or effect it is suffering from that grants a save. The DC of the saving throw is equal to the original DC of the spell or effect. If the saving throw is successful, the effect ends.

Can you remove Blindness inflicted by the Blindness/Deafness spell?

Relevant points of the spell are: It is a level 2 (or 3 for Clerics and Oracles) spell with a duration of Permanent (Dismissible) and allows for a Fort save to negate.

It seems Liberty's Blessing has two requirements to function.

1. The target must be suffering from a spell or effect.
2. The Spell or Effect must grant a save.

The duration of Blindness/Deafness is Permanent, NOT Instantaneous so it is still a spell in effect and can even be dispelled. This suggest it meets the first requirement.

The spell also grants a save, therefore it meets Liberty's Blessing's second requirement, as it says "Grants a Save" not "That a Save can Remove"

So if I am reading this correctly RAW (Please note this is for PFS so RAW is Law unless otherwise noted.) I could use Liberty's Blessing to give 10 attempts (1 per turn for a minute) per use of the ability for the subject to succeed at the save and remove the condition.

Has there already been a Paizo ruling on this already?
Is my interpretation correct?
If not, why?

Please note, this is asking about how the ability works, not if it is over powered because quite frankly it probably is OP.


You can dispel magic Blindess/Deafness too.

But yeah thats how it works. The Liberation Domain and it's variants are quite potent.


So then this works on effects that allowed an initial save, not just effects that allow future/ongoing saves as another thread seemed to suggest?


Hoping for some insight on how this domain power works, particularly the "allows a save" clause, as I'm making a cleric for PFS and am strongly considering this domain. Thanks!

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