Displacement count as concealment or not?

[Leonardo Trancoso]

Help please!

Displacement count as concealment or not? Why? Where?

[Sgt Arpin]

The spell description says they get the effect of total concealment, but doesn't directly say they get total concealment. I think it's because they can still be seen and targeted, but that's the only difference. What's the real question though? Why do you ask?

[Leonardo Trancoso]

Because of the Half-Elve Ranger variant(Wild Shadow) ability.

If the ranger have concealment the % is improved in 10, 20, 30%

[Sgt Arpin]

In that case I'd say no, the spell still does what it says it does. It provides a 50% miss chance, "as if" they had total concealment.

[Leonardo Trancoso]

and blur? blur seems to work fine

[Sgt Arpin]

I agree with that one. That one specifically states you get concealment.

[Leonardo Trancoso]

blur + the variant + moonlight stalker master = 60% miss chance = (

i´m trying to make a 90% miss chance = )

[LazarX]

Leonardo Trancoso wrote:

Because of the Half-Elve Ranger variant(Wild Shadow) ability.

If the ranger have concealment the % is improved in 10, 20, 30%

No.. the ranger ability applies to actual concealment, i.e. from brush, not from this spell.

[dirgeoverdrive]

"Additionally, while he is within one of his favored terrains, if he gains concealment or total concealment, the miss chance of either type of concealment improves by 10%."

RAW: The %-increase only works in the ranger's favored terrain, but it doesn't seem to require that the concealment come from a terrain effect. So blur in (e.g.) the forest should work.

This is in contrast to the bonus to cover that the ranger(wild shadow) receives: "Whenever a wild shadow is within one of his favored terrains and a feature of that terrain grants him cover..."
The cover bonus explicitly requires that a terrain feature be granting the cover. The concealment bonus does not.