Dotting, would like to know this as well.
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I'm pretty sure that it is Yes to both.
Main reasons
1:Racial Heritage lets you take racial archetypes from other classes. An archetype, as a general rule, will be significantly more powerful than a Favored Class Bonus, since one is supposed to be roughly equivalent to +1 HP/Skill Rank, and the other is supposed to be as powerful as its Base Class more or less. So balance-wise, it shouldn't ever be a problem.
2:Scion of Humanity has the following text
Some aasimars' heavenly ancestry is extremely distant. An aasimar with this racial trait counts as an outsider (native) and a humanoid (human) for any effect related to race, including feat prerequisites and spells that affect humanoids.
I'm pretty sure specific Favored Class Bonuses are effects related to races.
3:Thinking about this from an RP perspective, you are strongly connected to that race. Very strongly. So strongly, in fact, that magical items including artifacts can identify you as being connected to that race when effecting you, as well as things like Favored Enemy bonuses and Spells. So it should stand to reason that what you have from that race that makes you so similar to them would probably allow you to learn similar race-specific things from that race [like, specific Favored Class Bonus, for example].
Hello,
From my forum/FAQ searches, it seems that Half-Elves/Orcs have had a recent revision that allowed them to take Human (or Elf/Orc) racial Favored Class Bonuses (FCBs). However, the FAQ is silent as to whether "Scion of Humanity" (Aasimar alternative racial trait that makes your type human rather than outsider) similarly allows the Human FCB.
Anyone have insight into this?
Related question: Does the Racial Heritage feat allow a Human to take the FCBs of the selected race?
Thank you
Chris
I'll point to the same thing I did before the FAQ. "If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites." ARG, page 217. With the FAQ AND this, I can't see an argument against it working for Scion of Humanity.
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Would be nice to know for outside of PFS. It's certainly a "frequently asked question".
For Society play, this is the most recent ruling:
Favored Class Bonus for Half-Elves and Half-Orcs
For the purpose of qualifying for favored class bonuses, half-elves are also treated as both elves and humans, and half-orcs are also treated as humans (but not orcs)—a byproduct of their respective elf blood and orc blood racial traits. Only characters that have the elf blood or orc blood racial trait count as a member of another race for this purpose.
Would be nice to know for outside of PFS. It's certainly a "frequently asked question".
For Society play, this is the most recent ruling:
Favored Class Bonus for Half-Elves and Half-Orcs
For the purpose of qualifying for favored class bonuses, half-elves are also treated as both elves and humans, and half-orcs are also treated as humans (but not orcs)—a byproduct of their respective elf blood and orc blood racial traits. Only characters that have the elf blood or orc blood racial trait count as a member of another race for this purpose.
The sad thing is, the trait doesn't actually DO anything the rules don't cover. In the core, the races didn't list the subtypes. Since those two races had two, they listed it that way to remind people. Non-core races just list type(subtype) openly so don't require the reminder.
PFS has it's own houserules I guess.
I'll point to the same thing I did before the FAQ. "If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites." ARG, page 217. With the FAQ AND this, I can't see an argument against it working for Scion of Humanity.
Well to be fair, this is only included in the rules for creating custom races, not in the rules relating to existing races or race option.
In the case of custom races it is necessary, since they naturally does not have racial options availiable.Specific rules like this, normally can not be used to determined the generel rules.
I'll point to the same thing I did before the FAQ. "If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites." ARG, page 217. With the FAQ AND this, I can't see an argument against it working for Scion of Humanity.Well to be fair, this is only included in the rules for creating custom races, not in the rules relating to existing races or race option.
In the case of custom races it is necessary, since they naturally does not have racial options availiable.Specific rules like this, normally can not be used to determined the generel rules.
Well to be fair, it's the only rule on point. that and a general rule on subtypes should be valid no matter where you find a subtype. No where does it say those rules ONLY count for created races.
The trait allows the planetouched to be affected by humanoid only spells such as Enlarge Person.Would be nice to know for outside of PFS. It's certainly a "frequently asked question".
For Society play, this is the most recent ruling:
Favored Class Bonus for Half-Elves and Half-Orcs
For the purpose of qualifying for favored class bonuses, half-elves are also treated as both elves and humans, and half-orcs are also treated as humans (but not orcs)—a byproduct of their respective elf blood and orc blood racial traits. Only characters that have the elf blood or orc blood racial trait count as a member of another race for this purpose.The sad thing is, the trait doesn't actually DO anything the rules don't cover. In the core, the races didn't list the subtypes. Since those two races had two, they listed it that way to remind people. Non-core races just list type(subtype) openly so don't require the reminder.
PFS has it's own houserules I guess.
You made a mistake LazarX. the trait I was referring to and the one I quoted was the elf blood/orc blood racial trait. Not the Scion of Humanity trait.
The 'blood' traits are the ones that do 100% nothing, since those races subtypes already do everything the 'blood' traits says.