Virtuoso performance question

[Cuttler]

Virtuoso performance indicates that you can start a second performance.

Do they have do be different types of performances (e.g: one singing, the other dancing) or they could be using se same type (for example: 2 singing performances blending two songs together)...

Logically, I would assume 2 different performances, but would like to know by RAW which is true...

[Cuttler]

anyone???

[Michael Sayre]

They can be the same type. Your Bardic Performances aren't actually tied directly to your Perform skill, and nothing says they have to be.

My fiancee' actually ran an Arcane Duelist who used Virtuoso Performance and Exquisite Accompaniment to use Bladethirst and Inspire Courage simultaneously to brutal effect.

[Cuttler]

Thanks Ssalarn. But I'd like to challenge that if you don'T mind.

Ssalarn wrote:

Your Bardic Performances aren't actually tied directly to your Perform skill, and nothing says they have to be.

This is actually wrong.

From CRB page 35:
"Bardic Performance: A bard is trained to use the Perform skill to create magical effects on those around him, including himself if desired...."

So it clearly indicates that you are using the Perform skill. Hence my question. Could you use the perform skill (sing) for two different bardic performances (such as Inspire courage and Dirge of Doom) or you have to use two different perform skills (like sing and dance)

If two different are needed, could you use oratory and singin. Logically since they both use our voice, they could not work together. But haven't seen that RAW....

what do you think

[Michael Sayre]

Unless a Performance specifies that it uses a particular skill (like Countersong or Distraction), it doesn't require a particular skill. You'll notice Inspire Courage and Inspire Confidence don't mention any skill checks at all. You could be singing, dancing, whatever, and you don't need any particular ranks in any particular skill.

That being said, even if all of the performances were like Countersong or Distraction where a particular skill is referenced, there's nothing that would prevent you from using two performances that both key off the same skill. Virtuoso Performance is magic after all, and magic that the Bard gains at a level where Wizards can teleport 1000 miles and turn dragons into bunny rabbits. Allowing a Bard to play two separate tunes on his flute or sing two separate songs simultaneously sounds pretty par for the course, and is 100% RAW.