Looked at a couple old threads and couldn't find what I was looking for. I didn't want to revive an old thread, so here goes. I know you can use magic items like a belt of strength or headband of intelligence to qualify for feats if you wear them for 24 hours. You lose those feats if you lose the item. What about stuff like wild shape? Can I not get multi-attack since Wild Shape isn't "permanent?"
I swear I've seen some druid builds that try to optimize wild shape that grab feats like Multi-Attack, Fly-by Attack, and Improved Natural Attack.
Are these builds not legal? Or was it because of houserules these builds are allowed? A link or a quote would be greatly appreciated.
The only thing that immediately comes to mind as a rules quote is the rules for when you can put ranks in fly. You can't put ranks in fly unless you have a means of regularly flying (a fly speed, access to wildshape or a fly spell).
By RAW you can take a feat as long as you meet the prerequisite, and if you lose the prerequisite you do not lose the feat - you simply can't use it unti lyou meet the prerequisite again.
Prerequisites
Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat. A character can gain a feat at the same level at which he gains the prerequisite.A character can't use a feat if he loses a prerequisite, but he does not lose the feat itself. If, at a later time, he regains the lost prerequisite, he immediately regains full use of the feat that prerequisite enables.
A good rule of thumb to follow when qualifying for feats is assume characters are leveling up in a vacume. Unless something is a perment bonus they do not have access to it when leveling.
This pretty much fits the model and is explained well int he rules regarding stats, Ie if you have a 10 str you cant take power attack. But if you have a +4 str item you can.
Its less well explained in regards to stuff like 'can my dragon sorcerer who only has access to claws for 42 seconds a day take weapon focus claws'
I simply go with the leveling happens in a no buff vaccume model but its unclear if thats fully supported in the rules. At the end of the day outside of PFS go with what is good for your group.
The ability to wild-shape is a permanent ability. What shape you take is temporary. Thus, you are able to access things like Improved Natural Attack and other various monster feats.
The ability to wild-shape is a permanent ability. What shape you take is temporary. Thus, you are able to access things like Improved Natural Attack and other various monster feats.
Ah, that makes perfect sense! Thanks!