Cosmetic changes to wondrous items


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If you buy a wondrous magic item, such as a Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier, does it have to be a Jingasa? Or can it be a western style helmet to match full plate armor?

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Reflavor as you like, but there's a campaign rule that an item (or animal, or whatever) can't look like a different thing that it's not. Put another way, everybody looking at it, who knows what a jingasa of the fortunate soldier is, should be able to recognize it without any additional confusion.

Does that help?


Yes, thank you.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

I'm curious, do you still plan to reflavour it, and if so, how?

Asking because I specifically didn't buy this item because a Jingasa didn't fit my character concept at all (rough and tumble gunslinger, not a tien warrior).

3/5

Expect pushback. Reskinning is historically contentious around here.

It would be fine by me, in accordance with the rule that Chris cited above.

5/5

Avatar-1 wrote:

I'm curious, do you still plan to reflavour it, and if so, how?

Asking because I specifically didn't buy this item because a Jingasa didn't fit my character concept at all (rough and tumble gunslinger, not a tien warrior).

I've done the same. Reskinning just isn't somehting I particularly want to mess with. Some items are described rather vaguely though, so I believe some embellishment may be permitted.

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Hmmm.. how about you call it a Kettle helmet Its pretty close to a jingasa.

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I still think that any opportunity to add flavor to the campaign should be encouraged. Far too often, our players treat their characters as stat blocks rather than personalities. Who knows what a Cloak of Resistance looks like, and whether or not it could be embroidered with a holy symbol of your deity? Who's to say that an arena fighter's boots of elvenkind aren't actually made of elvenkind? Why can't my hat of disguise look like a flowery straw hat? As long as the item occupies the same slot and looks like an object that would fulfill the same mundane role, I don't see the problem.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Actually, on the hat of disguise, it explicitly can be made to look like just about anything that you would wear on your head.

Purple head shawl? No problem.
Green beret? No problem from me, but maybe that ex-special forces guy might have something to say to you. ;)

But, more seriously, as long as you make sure the GM knows what the actual item is, for rules purposes, and don't go too far afield, I, at least, don't much care as a GM.

The only issue is when you reflavor something into something else that exists in the rules.

5/5

I know this is kind of a tangential topic, but what about enchanting mundane items picked up over the course of scenarios?

For Instance-

My Hellknight-Paladin of Iomedae picked up a Cloak of the Inheritor from the Ascendance Day holiday boon. After its main function is used, could it be enchanted as a cloak of resistance?

My natural weapon barbarian/DD was given the gift of a non-magical sabertooth tiger pelt during a scenario. Could this be enchanted as a Cloak of Fangs?

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zefig wrote:

I know this is kind of a tangential topic, but what about enchanting mundane items picked up over the course of scenarios?

For Instance-

My Hellknight-Paladin of Iomedae picked up a Cloak of the Inheritor from the Ascendance Day holiday boon. After its main function is used, could it be enchanted as a cloak of resistance?

My natural weapon barbarian/DD was given the gift of a non-magical sabertooth tiger pelt during a scenario. Could this be enchanted as a Cloak of Fangs?

I honestly wouldn't see why not. As a GM I'd allow it; considering most magic item crafters use spellcraft to do their dirty work they have to spend the gold partially on the enchanting materials and partially on acquiring a mundane version of the item to make magical. I don't like the idea that, with spellcraft, not using a creation spell, and not having ranks in say, craft (tailoring), you make a cloak appear and also it's magic.

Bear in mind, that's personal preference/opinion. Ruleswise as far as I know there's nothing for or against my argument. I am open to correction, though!

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zefig wrote:

I know this is kind of a tangential topic, but what about enchanting mundane items picked up over the course of scenarios?

For Instance-

My Hellknight-Paladin of Iomedae picked up a Cloak of the Inheritor from the Ascendance Day holiday boon. After its main function is used, could it be enchanted as a cloak of resistance?

My natural weapon barbarian/DD was given the gift of a non-magical sabertooth tiger pelt during a scenario. Could this be enchanted as a Cloak of Fangs?

I believe that the developers have said explicitly that magic items of the same kind can look quite different; for instance, one amulet of natural armor might be made of silver, while another might be a fetish made of a bundle of sticks.

Besides, what's the point of needing Spellcraft to identify magic items if they all look exactly like the one I'm wearing?

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olePigeon wrote:
If you buy a wondrous magic item, such as a Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier, does it have to be a Jingasa? Or can it be a western style helmet to match full plate armor?

Isn't that the downside of the jingasa, that you get made fun of for your ridiculous hat? Doesn't the ridicule amount to like a 10% cost reduction or something, kinda like with the Qadiran 10%-off Master of Trade vanity, where you pay less for your items but get made fun of for picking the statistically-best faction?

-Matt, just kidding...


@Mattastrophic Actually reading this thread I did wonder if it was on the mind of the developer(s).

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