Likely going to bump this in the morning because it is so late.
Got caught in a bit of an odd, create a crazy character mood and came up with this nonsense.
Let's break it down the main thing that is bugging me.
Barbarian has a BAB of 6 (+6/+1)
Bararian is a Titan Mauler, allowing him to wield two handed weapons in one hand.
Barbarian takes two weapon fighting and improved two weapon fighting.
At this point, I can wield a two-handed weapon in each hand, taking a -6 on all attacks with them (not light weapons + jotungrip). This is, I assume, the main reason Titan Mauler was made.
Now let's get a bit crazy.
Barbarian takes Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Two-Bladed Sword, a core rulebook weapon, which is a two-handed double weapon.
Barbarian decides to wield two of these, one in each hand.
...How many attacks per round does he get with a full attack action, and with what penalties (assuming strength is 10 and weapons are basic)?
It doesn't matter how many weapons you have, you don't get more attacks than you have from BaB and Feats.
So with BaB 6 and TWFing/Improved you'd have 4 attacks.
If you're decked out with a weapon in each hand, two boot blades, a Barbazu Beard, and a boulder helmet...you still only get 4 attacks.
Penalties for a double weapon is same for two weapon fighting. So probably another -6 additional.
I'm thinking: -12/-12/-12/-12 not quite sure.
I'd reckon you need two hands to attack with both ends of a double weapon.
As raw, it's a bit sketchy.
"A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon"does not implicitly say it requires both hands. Normally, not a big deal because all double weapons are two-handed anyway - but in the case of jotungrip...
Edit: This seems to make sense in the mind's eye as well, and not just some weird gamification thing. Imagine a character spinning their hand around, sort of forward and back. Now imagine a sword in that... They kind of spin it in a circular pattern horizontal to the side of their body. Like a baton, to some degree. Some of you might imagine your characters attacking like this already. Add another end to that blade, and spin it faster, and that's practically what'd be going on here. It cuts twice because of those two ends.
I'd reckon you need two hands to attack with both ends of a double weapon.As raw, it's a bit sketchy.
"A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon"
does not implicitly say it requires both hands. Normally, not a big deal because all double weapons are two-handed anyway - but in the case of jotungrip...
Actually it does when you read further.
"A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can't use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round."
So looks like RAW has it covered. :)
"A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can't use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round."
So looks like RAW has it covered. :)
Aye, so it does! I did miss that bit (a few times, actually... A bit embarrassing.)
Well that's sorted then. The build I was working on can still go as planned - but won't be quite as crazy.
"A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can't use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round."
So looks like RAW has it covered. :)
Aye, so it does! I did miss that bit (a few times, actually... A bit embarrassing.)
Well that's sorted then. The build I was working on can still go as planned - but won't be quite as crazy.
Nothing embarrassing about it. It was a sentenced sandwiched into a bunch more. Not even the first in a paragraph. I miss stuff like that all the time. :)